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gmoon
11-29-2007, 03:04 AM
Hi! First-timer here!

I've a old (1961) Kay 503A amp that needs some upgrading. It's a low-wattage practice amp with 'radio' tubes--12AU6, 50L6, 35Z5. It has good tone, but is fairly noisy at times, and has some (unpleasant) breakup at higher volumes I can't quite blame on the speaker.

It's all original (including tubes), so I'm planning the the usual stuff: recap, new tubes, speaker replacement. But I've a couple questions first...

--Never done a 'recap' job. Is it customary to leave the old multi-cap 'tin can' in place for looks? (From reading here and other places, I'm aware of the dangers of adding too much capacitance in the rectifier filtering.)

--Should the filter caps voltage rating be upped? I ask because the previous owner had already bought caps and they are rated 150V (highest voltage in the circuit is 130V, I believe.) While the original caps were rated 150V, this seems a little skimpy to me.

--The amp circuitry is isolated from the line, but not the heaters. They're connected directly to the line, in series with a 150 ohm 5 watt resistor. I know it isn't ideal, but it's better than no iso transformer at all. Is this reasonably safe? Or should I build a separate power supply for the heaters? (DC?)

--The amp appears to have an error in the original wiring (The three inputs each have an inline 22K resistor. Between them and the .05 cap should be a 22K res to GND. Instead the 22K resistor is connected to GND BEFORE one of the input resistors on INPUT 1.)

Since I need to correct this anyway, I've found several schematics for amps with nearly identical tubes, but some wiring variation ('Alamo Fiesta', 'Airline GDR-8511A', 'Harmony 303A', 'Kent 2189', 'Silvertone 1430, 1448' and more...) I plan to try some of those variations in the preamp stage. I've done enough experimentation to see that the amp is capable of a much 'brighter' sound. Any thoughts?

gmoon
12-17-2007, 07:17 PM
No comments, eh? (would have liked to hear opinions about the AC heater circuit, at least--from a safety perspective.)

So I posted a project about the rebuild here:
Tube-Amp-Rebuild-and-Mod (http://www.instructables.com/id/Tube-Amp-Rebuild-and-Mod/)

'Course, I wouldn't be surprised if there were errors. Kind of new to the workings of the magic tubes....

Bruce / Mission Amps
12-17-2007, 07:52 PM
No comments, eh? (would have liked to hear opinions about the AC heater circuit, at least--from a safety perspective.)

So I posted a project about the rebuild here:
Tube-Amp-Rebuild-and-Mod (http://www.instructables.com/id/Tube-Amp-Rebuild-and-Mod/)

'Course, I wouldn't be surprised if there were errors. Kind of new to the workings of the magic tubes....Most of us don't like the idea of AC/DC radios and the like and would prefer some kind of an isolation tranny but I personally don't know of anyone has been hurt by one.
I guess if you are worried about the filament string, you can use an extra inline fuse with the right fuse link to blow if anything get shorted.
It is already protected by your mains fuse though and you did ground the chassis... still...?
Just remember that the full 117v-128v line voltage is applied across that circuit so, what ever additional load (less ohms = more load) or short that is accidentally is on it (less ohms then the total resistance of the filaments), will suck up a ton of current, which is only protected by a 1a-2a fuse....and you could have an issue.
Also... drop that high cut tone control and use one from a tweed Princeton 5F2A.
You only need a 1m audio pot, one 500pf cap and one .0047uF cap.
You'll like it much better.
Ignore about 98% of what self appointed amp gurus tell you about O'drops vs any other decent plastic cap.
The tweed tone control mod is all you need to do extra for this amp.

gmoon
12-17-2007, 08:56 PM
@ Bruce:

Thanks for the comments! I'll take a look at the tweed Princeton tone circuit next.

Your 'take' on the heater circuit is appreciated...Adding an additional fuse sounds like a good idea (and I doubt I'll do much more to this project after those two changes.)

I've learned a thing or two from the rebuild. Maybe not enough yet to rebuild my old Ampeg Gemini II, but a step in that direction....