P13 pickups?

[Possum]

Anyone have any info on these, how they are built, pictures of the guts etc.?

[Sweetfinger]

Lot like a P-90, but with a nickel cover.

[Electricdaveyboy]

Hello,
yes I got me one from ebay some time ago,I opend it.
It has no real bobbin,just grey bulky paper top and bottomplate.
The keeper bar is stuck in the inside of the coil as bobbin center and surrounded of brass.
Wound with PE ,wich is soldered directly to the solderpoints on to the bobbinplate.
The magnets are long PAF style magnets wich I think are unoriented.
Hope this helps.

Happy New Year !

db

[Possum]

I just won one on Ebay as well, freaking expensive. I did some looking at the history of these, some of the variants look like they have keepers on top of the pickup as a bar or something, real strange. I don't think Gibson made them as alot think, that kind of construction is DeArmond Rowe trademark. anyway will be jazzed to check this one out....

[Electricdaveyboy]

Hello,
hope these pics will help.
db

[Possum]

great shots but hard to see how the magnets are included. I should have mine in a couple days. There's still one left on ebay for $289, they very rarely ever come up for auction, a rare pickup....

[Electricdaveyboy]

Hello,
still hard to see but magnets are under the coil along the drilled keeperbar that goes all the way trought the coil.Can not lift the coil because the enamel wire is directly soldered to the joints in the bottomplate.
cheers
db.

[Possum]

Cool thanks for doing that for me. Cool design, I can see why they sound like they do and not like P90s exactly....

[rocket]

What can you see - what's the difference?

[kevinT]

here is one up for auction right now on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150199870326&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005

[David Schwab]

What can you see - what's the difference?

A big steel core for one thing.

[Possum]

I bought its brother pickup. these are radically different than P90s....

[rocket]

A big steel core for one thing.

oh - I missed this

[jonson]

Good chance Possum this pat covers that pup.
2294861

[David Schwab]

Good chance Possum this pat covers that pup.
2294861

Wow, that sure looks like it! I thought this was one of those DeArmond-Rowe speed bumps .... a Gibson, huh?

Man, I love old pickups. :D

[Possum]

Yeah thats it, so it WAS a Gibson product. I broke the coil wire taking mine apart so I got to completely disassemble it and see everything inside. Fixed it luckily when I was done. Coil is lacquer potted. I can see why they went to plastic bobbins and seperate keeper later, these are production unfriendly pickups. It looks like the coil was wound as an air coil and placed over the core later because in mine there is a gap between the end of the core and coil. Haven't quite figured out the brass tabs thing.

[rocket]

Possum,

could you please measure dc resitance and inductance?