DeArmond Rowe Pickup Rewind ?

[Electricdaveyboy]

Hello Pickup-Winders,
I got this Dearmond pickup for repair.Do you guys have any info on DC-Resistance,windings and wire gauge?

Thanks

David

[David Schwab]

That's a Model 1000 Rhythm Chief. I don't know the specs though, but I had one a long time ago. Mine eventually broke when it unglued itself. All I remember is it had really thin wire. Great sounding pickup.

[David Schwab]

Here's a thread from the old pickup makers forum

http://archive.ampage.org/threads/6/pmgd/358849/Re_DeArmond_monkey_pickups-1.html

[Spence]

Try these guys :

http://www.archtop.com/ac_access.html

I can't find my notes on these so I'd suggest you get in touch with them.

[Electricdaveyboy]

Thank you Sirs,
what I read in the old forum scares me a bit but I have to unwind it to get behind the secret.
A NICE WEEK TO ALL OF YOU PICKUP-SPINNERS !
Cheers
david

[Spence]

44AWG wound to 7.4 K Ohms, A2 magnet.

[Electricdaveyboy]

Thank a lot Spencer,
I hope I can rewind it this weekend.

david

[Spence]

Let me know how you get on the David.

[Electricdaveyboy]

Hello Spence ,
here is an update :

[David Schwab]

Cool!

So they really did wind around 4 magnets...

[Electricdaveyboy]

.............yes David,now I know why nobody is a fan of those to rewind. here is another shot :

[Electricdaveyboy]

Thanks for helping me trough this !
cheers
david

[belwar]

Thats so cool! Did you take measurements of everything?

[David Schwab]

Do you know what make and value the pots were, and what size the cap was?

[Possum]

Can you tell me the height of the magnets and diameters of the fat magnets and the skinny magnets?
Harry DeArmond was a genius pickup designer, who would have ever thought of such an idea? Very cool design....

[Electricdaveyboy]

Sorry Folks,
I made notes and I will post soon.I have the control box here and I will check it for you Dave.
The pickupcoil is wound but I am not finished because the owner is not under pressure............
Cheers
david

[Dave Kerr]

Any ideas on the approx wind count for the inner vs outer portion?

[Possum]

Yean would love to know the value of the pot, and if you have a guassmeter readings off the magnets would be useful. I always wondered what was under the hood on those pickups and never was able to find the patent number for it.

[StarryNight]

don't the other 2 poles suffer tone or volume loss as a result of no wire being round them, or is that wire around each pole?

[belwar]

don't the other 2 poles suffer tone or volume loss as a result of no wire being round them, or is that wire around each pole?

Well my take on it is that some wire is wrapped around the bottom 4 strings, then the other two pole pieces are inserted and the remainder of the coil wrapped.

My gut tells me the purpose was to soften the B & E string by having less of the coil around them. I would further guess that this started with the non-adjustable pole piece 1000 model, then when they moved to the 1100 that they didnt stop the procedure even though they could now adjust the pole piece to get a similar effect.