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    A magnet seller lists Humbucker adjustment Screws and Slugs in 1018 &1022 alloy.
    He lists these alloys for both Plated and non plated parts.
    Which alloy would have the best magnetic properties?
    I presume it would be 1018. 1018 has less carbon than the 1022?
    Is this correct?
    Thanks in advance.
    Terry
    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
    Terry

  • #2
    yep lower number= lower carbon & more magnetic
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    • #3
      Just keep in mind that these tolerances can be very loose. No one is going to test every batch of steel to make sure it's got exactly .018 or .022% carbon because no one else in industry is going to give a hoot. There may be a few here who can claim to hear a difference of ..03% carbon but I can't, I doubt I could hear a difference between 1005 and 1022.

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      • #4
        Lower carbon steel will sound warmer than higher carbon steel. You may, or may not, want that. So try both and see what works in your formula.
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        • #5
          1018 is a great humbucker slug alloy. PAF's traditionally used a quick machining steel which is even lower in carbon.

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          • #6
            Well actually I'm considering buying a batch of slugs, and they are 1010 vs. 1018.
            So I guess your saying for low output humbuckers the 1010 would sound warmer, than the 1018.
            Most of my humbuckers are less than 10k.
            I will probably order the 1010 nickel plated.
            Terry
            "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
            Terry

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            • #7
              Originally posted by big_teee View Post
              Well actually I'm considering buying a batch of slugs, and they are 1010 vs. 1018.
              So I guess your saying for low output humbuckers the 1010 would sound warmer, than the 1018.
              Most of my humbuckers are less than 10k.
              I will probably order the 1010 nickel plated.
              Terry
              That reminds me, Jimmy Page once.... oh, sorry.
              -Brad

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RedHouse View Post
                That reminds me, Jimmy Page once.... oh, sorry.
                I give up, am I missing something here?
                Help!
                Terry
                "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                Terry

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                  I give up, am I missing something here?
                  Help!
                  Terry
                  Sorry, a mix-up of threads.
                  -Brad

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RedHouse View Post
                    Sorry, a mix-up of threads.
                    Hello Brad:
                    No problem.
                    Tell me more about Jimmy Page.
                    You know how I like anything to do with Zeppelin
                    Terry
                    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                    Terry

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                      Hello Brad:
                      No problem.
                      Tell me more about Jimmy Page.
                      You know how I like anything to do with Zeppelin
                      Terry

                      Does this ring any bells...?

                      Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                      Hey Brad, I like the post's where it doesn't matter how they start, but they always end up on Jimmy Page & Led Zeppelin!
                      Terry
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RedHouse View Post
                        Does this ring any bells...?
                        Hey that does ring a bell.
                        You can also include Cream and Free in there, as far as I'm concerned!
                        I'm a huge Paul Rodgers Fan!
                        YouTube - Free - Ride on a Pony
                        T
                        "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                        Terry

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                        • #13
                          +1 on this one. Even screws made of the same alloy can sound different. I can hear drastic changes in tone within the same alloys that I wouldn't attribute to head/shank size/shape differences. IMO, can only be attributed to alloy tolerances.

                          Originally posted by David King View Post
                          Just keep in mind that these tolerances can be very loose. No one is going to test every batch of steel to make sure it's got exactly .018 or .022% carbon because no one else in industry is going to give a hoot. There may be a few here who can claim to hear a difference of ..03% carbon but I can't, I doubt I could hear a difference between 1005 and 1022.
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                          • #14
                            I still haven't heard any of the experts divulge their recommendations, of what alloy slugs, and screws, to use for a normal humbucker.
                            I guess its all top Secret!
                            Terry
                            "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                            Terry

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                            • #15
                              Actually I know for a fact that some do check...

                              TV Jones's screw maker checks every batch of steel for the pole screws on the filtertron. Tom pays a premium for the service, but it ensures the same alloy every time. Most *good* metal working places have a little handheld device that does a quick vapor test of the alloy and reports back its make up.

                              I know I did it when I ordered a custom batch of screws for my bass pup

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