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    For blending the signal from two humbuckers I really like what I call "jazz wiring" with the hot lead from the pickups connected to the wiper instead of the CW terminal (called terminal #3 for a very logical reason- see below ***.) In the middle position with normal wiring if you turn one volume control all of the way down it mutes the guitar. With jazz wiring when you turn one of the volume controls to 0 it is just like selecting the other pickup. So you get infinite control over the blending of the two pickups.

    One disadvantage with jazz wiring is that you can't mute the guitar- there is always some signal coming from the volume pots- so these guitars usually have a master volume control which is really cool because you can adjust the blend and then have independent control of overall volume.

    With a Les Paul style guitar with two volume and two tone controls you could rewire one tone pot as a master tone control and rewire the other tone pot as a master volume control. Another solution would be to use a push-pull pot as a mute switch.

    The ESP/LTD EC256 humbucker models are a good candidate for the mute switch configuration as it has 3 pots- 2 volume and 1 tone, with a push-pull switch on the tone control wired as a coil cut switch. No need to swap out any of the pots.

    To use 50s wiring (with the tone controls connected to the output from the volume pot rather than the hot signal from the pickup) you would want the tone pot to be connected to the CW terminal (#3).

    Steve Ahola

    *** So why is the CW (hot) terminal of a pot designated as terminal #3? You can use just the CCW (cold) terminal and the wiper to create a simple volume control which mutes the signal as you turn down the control. So the CCW terminal is designated as terminal #1 and the wiper is designated as terminal #2, which leaves terminal #3 for the CW terminal. (I used to think that the terminal designations were completely arbitrary but you will find that most modern Fender schematics use these labels.)
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    I decided to put the TV Jones/FilterTron pickups in a LP-style guitar with 4 pots. I will wire up the two pots closest to the strings as individual volume controls with the wipers connected to the hot lead of the pickup, with the other two pots wired up as global tone and volume controls. Being able to dial in the exact volume required once the balance between the two pickups is set is a big plus. It would be cool if there was one more control so that each pickup could have its own tone control but it is what it is...

    Steve A.
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    • #3
      I like the modern wiring for guitars.(P/U on the Vol. output)
      I like the Jazz type wiring for bass, but with it, I like a 3 pos. switch.
      IME, If you get too complicated, you spend all the time messing with knobs, instead of playing guitar.
      Last edited by big_teee; 10-10-2014, 06:52 AM.
      "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
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      • #4
        Originally posted by big_teee View Post
        I like the modern wiring for guitars.(P/U on the Vol. output)
        I like the Jazz type wiring for bass, but with it, I like a 3 pos. switch.
        IME, If you get too complicated, you spend all the time messing with knobs, instead of playing guitar.
        It has to do with the blending of the two pickups. The Gretsch used the jazz wiring with a master volume control and I figure that I should do the same with the TV Jones pickups. FWIW I spend more time playing my guitars without an amp since I live in a condo.

        So what is your preference on tone control wiring- the 50's wiring or the modern wiring? I think that with the 50's wiring your sound doesn't get as muddy or indestinct as you turn your volume control down. (I never did hear a good reason why Gibson changed the wiring- with 50's wiring the tone control is connected to the output of the volume control while with the modern wiring it is connected to the CW terminal which is the output from the pickup or the selector switch.)

        Steve
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        • #5
          I rebuilt a guild LP type guitar, a while back for a local music store.
          They wanted new pickups, and whatever else it needed.
          It had the LP 4 Pots, plus it had a master Volume control.
          It was very dark sounding , and I ended up replacing the Master volume Pot.
          I tried a couple of different Pots, and ended up with a 1 meg audio taper pot there, to make it brighter.
          I left the other 4 pots as they were.
          Lots of times you just have to do what works.
          The guild LP, did have a nice factory copper foil shielding, and it came stock with a pickup reverse polarity switch.
          "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
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