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  • Dearmond Gold Foil Info & Rewinding

    Scored a busted Dearmond Gold Foil on the bay for cheap. I want to rewind it and use it on my archtop.

    I've never opened one up before but now I have. Just a coil around a bobbin the top of which appears to be the magnet. What sort of magnet is this? Can it be recharged with neo's?

    Also, I know these were wound with 43 and 44. I have 43 on hand. Anyone have any idea how many winds they had originally?

    Sorry for the poor quality pics, my phone is S**t.

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  • #2
    that version - does it have a rubberized ferrite magnet? If so its 8,000 turns 44 between 10 and 11K- I doubt you can charge that with a neo- I dont really know but you shouldnt have to charge it. It is a somewhat weak magnet material. have fun with it.

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    • #3
      Those are good sounding pickups!

      Greg

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      • #4
        The mag is very weak. Thus my curiosity about charging. I've never seen a rubber ferrite mag so I don't know if it's worth that. It's rigid. No flaking. And there's room on the bobbin for more wire which may come in handy since i'll 43 to rewind.

        I'll post pics after. Here's hoping there's enough output.

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        • #5
          Hi Jr Damien

          Get yourself a tripod or turn the light on in the room where you take the photo you'll get a much better picture !

          Cheers

          Andrew
          Originally posted by jrdamien View Post
          The mag is very weak. Thus my curiosity about charging. I've never seen a rubber ferrite mag so I don't know if it's worth that. It's rigid. No flaking. And there's room on the bobbin for more wire which may come in handy since i'll 43 to rewind.

          I'll post pics after. Here's hoping there's enough output.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
            Hi Jr Damien

            Get yourself a tripod or turn the light on in the room where you take the photo you'll get a much better picture !

            Cheers

            Andrew
            But will I get better sounding pickups?

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            • #7
              you can get some idea what the magnet is made out of if you can touch it with the probes on your ohm meter set for continuity test- if its rubberised or standard ceramic you wont get a beep, if its alnico you will get continuity

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              • #8
                Rubber ferrite = refrigerator magnet. How cheap can you get?

                Before I laugh too hard, I have an old Lafayette axe with gold-crinkle pu's. Not terrific but they still work. Might be just like yours.
                This isn't the future I signed up for.

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                • #9
                  Hi Jr Damien

                  Maybe not but you might be able to see what your'e winding better. You know the old saying ? A bad workman always ____________________ s.
                  Cheers

                  Andrew
                  Originally posted by jrdamien View Post
                  But will I get better sounding pickups?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
                    Hi Jr Damien

                    Maybe not but you might be able to see what your'e winding better. You know the old saying ? A bad workman always ____________________ s.
                    Cheers

                    Andrew
                    I usually put the camera down while I'm winding. That seems to help the most.

                    Mr. Lollar says it had 8k turns for 10/11k w/ 44 - anyone have an idea of how to approximate that with 43 awg?

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                    • #11
                      Hi Jr Damien

                      Try using the pickup coil estimator here's a link
                      Coil Estimator
                      You should be able to get an estimation of the right amount of wire using the p90 setting (adjusted for your bobbin size. By the way i'm not trying to get at you (too much) My brother did photography in college and the first thing they told him to do was take a Kodak Brownie and come back with some decent photographs. I'm sure your cell phone could take some reasonable photos, use the macro setting and have plenty of light (the photographers best friend) and a steady hand.
                      Cheers

                      Andrew

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
                        Hi Jr Damien

                        Try using the pickup coil estimator here's a link
                        Coil Estimator
                        You should be able to get an estimation of the right amount of wire using the p90 setting (adjusted for your bobbin size. By the way i'm not trying to get at you (too much) My brother did photography in college and the first thing they told him to do was take a Kodak Brownie and come back with some decent photographs. I'm sure your cell phone could take some reasonable photos, use the macro setting and have plenty of light (the photographers best friend) and a steady hand.
                        Cheers

                        Andrew
                        Yes, I'll use an estimator if need be but I was curious if other people had more direct experience with it before I got to winding. Just picking brains.

                        I actually went to film school/know a little something about photography myself. For the sake of just showing everyone what I had and getting it uploaded quickly, a dimly lit photo from a 3 mpx camera did just fine. No reason to set up my pro gig for all that.

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                        • #13
                          With 43 gauge you would get similar results with 8000 turns

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jason lollar View Post
                            With 43 gauge you would get similar results with 8000 turns
                            Thank you, sir.

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                            • #15
                              Can you fit 8000 turns of 43 gauge on that pickup Jason?

                              Greg

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