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  • Info On This Vox Pickup

    This is out of a Vox Voilin bass. I've never seen one or worked on one.

    Any idea what it is or what sort of wire was used? The coil is taped and I've yet to tamper with it.

    The other pickup measures 9.7k.

    EDIT: This is a Hofner pickup.

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  • #2
    Well nevermind. It's a Hofner 512b from the late 60's and wound with 50mm wire.

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    • #3
      wound with 50mm wire
      50mm is about 2 inches
      maybe you mean 0.005mm wire (5 thousandths of a mm) which amounts to some AWG 44 .
      Juan Manuel Fahey

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      • #4
        There's quite a bit of info/inside views of Hofner pickups here - Hofner Guitar Pickups
        Their designs are interesting to study...You can tell they tried to make the most out of each magnet with all sorts of metallic gizmos, and some of those pickups sound really nice!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
          50mm is about 2 inches
          maybe you mean 0.005mm wire (5 thousandths of a mm) which amounts to some AWG 44 .
          This.

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          • #6
            Hmm... 44AWG is .002" or .051mm -no?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by David King View Post
              Hmm... 44AWG is .002" or .051mm -no?
              Yup. Those pesky decimal places...
              https://www.rembar.com/PDF/WireGauge.pdf
              Last edited by rjb; 10-17-2017, 04:17 PM. Reason: Changed decimal "points" to "places"
              DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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              • #8
                Probably.
                Fact is AWG scale is not linear so some equivalences are either not exact or need a long string of decimals ... which is irrelevant because there´s quite a tolerance spread on very thin drawn wire, specially if copper.
                Just check Elektrisola (or any other) wire tables, tolerance can easily be 5 to 10%

                As in:
                Gauge: 42 AWG & 43 AWG, 44 AWG
                Weight: 1.0 Pound Each
                Length: 42 AWG - 51,313 Feet (approx.) • 43 AWG - 66,092 Feet (approx.) • 44 AWG - 79,798 Feet (approx.)
                Diameter: 42 AWG - 0.0026"-0.0028" • 43 AWG - 0.0023"-0.0025" • 44 AWG - 0.0020"-0.0022"
                Insulation: Solderable Polyurethane
                Build: Min-Nom
                NEMA Description: MW-79-C
                Temperature Rating: 155°C (311°F)
                Color: 42 AWG - Natural • 43 AWG - Natural • 44 AWG - Red
                Reel Size: 2.5"x3" Spool
                Manufacturer: Elektrisola
                Juan Manuel Fahey

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                • #9
                  Juan, we're not talking about tolerance out to a long string of decimals. We're talking about order of magnitude.
                  You told jrdamien "50 mm is about 2 inches"- which is correct.
                  You went on to say "maybe you mean 0.005mm wire (5 thousandths of a mm) which amounts to some AWG 44"- which is incorrect.
                  AWG 44 is approximately 0.05mm (5 hundreths of a mm). So your "correction" was off by a factor of 10.

                  If I had better language & social skills, I would have said this more clearly & succinctly, and in a playfully teasing manner.

                  -rb

                  EDIT
                  How's this? "Hey Juan, is it true you worked on the Hubble telescope?" Nah, too snarky.
                  Last edited by rjb; 10-17-2017, 07:07 PM. Reason: Added bolding, italics, and snark.
                  DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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                  • #10
                    44 Gauge magnet wire, .0020-.0022 inches.
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                    Last edited by big_teee; 10-17-2017, 05:08 PM.
                    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                    Terry

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                      44 Gauge magnet wire, .0020-.0022 inches.
                      0.002 inches ~= 0.050 millimeters = 0.005 centimeters

                      DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rjb View Post
                        0.002 inches ~= 0.050 millimeters = 0.005 centimeters

                        Like I said! See Attach.
                        Keep beating it, I think I saw it wiggle!
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                        "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                        Terry

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                          Like I said! See Attach.
                          You're right, I didn't read the attachment.
                          So we agree: 44AWG = .0020"-.0022" = .051-.056 mm (to 2 significant decimal places).

                          Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                          Keep beating it, I think I saw it wiggle!
                          Right again- I saw it wiggle too.
                          DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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                          • #14
                            Think you are making a big point out of a very small one.

                            And yes, I typed one extra zero, so sue me, the main point was that pickup wire was NOT 50 mm, a FOUR orders of magnitude error now that you insist on that , anything else comes in its wake.
                            I even got close with the AWG value, which I included just as a courtesy to you Imperial heathens

                            Oh well, no good deed goes unpunished, just ask some moderator to remove all of my posts in this thread, which I should have left unmolested.
                            Juan Manuel Fahey

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                              Think you are making a big point out of a very small one.
                              Of course. That's what we do.

                              Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                              And yes, I typed one extra zero, so sue me,
                              It's not that. It's that you wrote out "5 thousandths of a mm", then when David corrected you, due to a coffee deficiency or similar malady, you misinterpreted what he said and went off on a tangent about manufacturing tolerances.

                              Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                              the main point was that pickup wire was NOT 50 mm, a FOUR orders of magnitude error now that you insist on that , anything else comes in its wake.
                              Yes, I'm still chuckling about that. Two inch thick pickup wire, tee hee hee.

                              Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                              I even got close with the AWG value, which I included just as a courtesy to you Imperial heathens
                              Lucky guess.

                              Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                              Oh well, no good deed goes unpunished,
                              Got that right.

                              Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                              just ask some moderator to remove all of my posts in this thread, which I should have left unmolested.
                              No way. This is going on the wall of shame.

                              -rb
                              Last edited by rjb; 10-18-2017, 06:38 AM.
                              DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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