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Old 06-11-2006, 03:58 AM   #1
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c'mon, where are you guys?

If I'm going to be a moderator along with tdog, I need to see some action. God exists vs. God does not exist. The game is afoot

Or, as Mark Knopfler wrote: "Two men say they're Jesus. One of 'em must be wrong."
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"Two men say they're Jesus. One of 'em must be wrong."
is it not possible that both are wrong?
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If I'm going to be a moderator along with tdog, I need to see some action. God exists vs. God does not exist. The game is afoot

Or, as Mark Knopfler wrote: "Two men say they're Jesus. One of 'em must be wrong."
ermmm...I guess this isn't the SS amp section?

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Old 06-13-2006, 01:23 AM   #4
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Hey Eric, nice to see that you're here. Talking SS amps could easily start a religious war....
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A SS amp couldn't be Jesus. Jesus MUST be a tube amp. When was the last time you plugged into a SS amp and said "Jesus, this sounds great?"
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A SS amp couldn't be Jesus. Jesus MUST be a tube amp. When was the last time you plugged into a SS amp and said "Jesus, this sounds great?"
I've plugged into an SS amp and said "jesus this sounds like crap"
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If I'm going to be a moderator along with tdog, I need to see some action. God exists vs. God does not exist. The game is afoot

Or, as Mark Knopfler wrote: "Two men say they're Jesus. One of 'em must be wrong."
Isn't Clapton god?!?
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Isn't Clapton god?!?
If Clapton's God, Peter Green is the Devil; and we all know who had the best tunes
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is it not possible that both are wrong?
Mark Knopfler's statement does not preclude that possibility. (As I recall he was a schoolteacher before Dire Straits hit the big time.)

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I've plugged into an SS amp and said "jesus this sounds like crap"
Depends on what instrument you are playing... I've plugged into a tube amp and said the same thing!

Tubes sounds great for guitars...

My Mesa 400+ sounds pretty good though.
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Mark Knopfler's statement does not preclude that possibility. (As I recall he was a schoolteacher before Dire Straits hit the big time.)

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I believe you're right there Steve.

Sting was another schoolteacher (from a few miles down the road).

I have it on good authority that Mark Knopfler used to skive off school with an ex-colleague of mine and a few others - they used to sit in Mark's bedroom and muck with guitars.

Me? I would hide in the airing cupboard then go and play in the woods or light a fire on the beach or over the allotments...

No looking back eh?

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Old 07-12-2006, 03:38 AM   #12
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I've plugged into an SS amp and said "jesus this sounds like crap"
Since you have real relationship with your personal Lord and Savior, You can actually pray that way. But, He's not going to turn it into a tube amp for you.
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the devil in the box

Clapton used to be god, then he made alot of money and decided that when you have a real whole lot of money you don't have to play like you mean it anymore and people will say you're god just because you're playing, so he's been demoted to "used to be God." I don't know who god is now, alot of people thought SRV was but then if you're god how can you die? ooops on that one. I think probably the devil is in charge now disguised at Britney Spears, I liked him alot better when he was tuning guitars down at the crossroads and writing blues tunes. confusing days we live in now.......thank god whoever it is for tubes still being around......
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:30 PM   #14
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I think probably the devil is in charge now disguised at Britney Spears...
Decadence is a feminist issue....
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I wouldn't say Clapton is god...mind numbingly boring YES .... but God NO

Peter Green on the other hand.........................................

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Sorry... but it would have to be... Robert Fripp! Or maybe John McLaughlin.

Clapton was good in Cream. His phrasing makes me cringe now.
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Clapton was good in Cream. His phrasing makes me cringe now.
I agree .......... IMHO anything after John Mayall started going down hill. Cream was cool but a bit too self indulgent for my liking. he lost it after that

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Rob:

I seem to remember the local PBS station playing music videos on Sunday night, long before MTV came along, both musical segments and documentary-type shorts- one of them being on Mark as a "guitar god", which struck me as strange because he was so tasteful and not a wanker...

As I recall that was right after the 2nd or 3rd Dire Straits album.

Who'd a thunk that musical videos would become so popular???

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I seem to remember the local PBS station playing music videos on Sunday night, long before MTV came along, both musical segments and documentary-type shorts- one of them being on Mark as a "guitar god", which struck me as strange because he was so tasteful and not a wanker...

As I recall that was right after the 2nd or 3rd Dire Straits album.

Who'd a thunk that musical videos would become so popular???

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It wasn't that long before MTV. MTV debuted in 1981, and although the first Dire Straits album was released in 1978, Sultans of Swing entered the American charts in 1979. I remember thinking he was a good guitar player, but it really didn't fit into the music scene back then!

Their 2nd album, Communiqué came out in 1979, and then Making Movies came out in 1980.

I do recall Making Movies having quite some airplay on MTV with Skateaway, and Expresso Love.

USA Network used to show a lot of interesting music videos in the early 80's. Then they got really bland after that!

I remember the music concert shows, like In Concert, Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, and Midnight Special in the 70's. Originally they showed live concert footage (I was at the Grand Funk concert filmed for In Concert), then by the late 70's they started showing all music videos. BORING!

Interestingly the Beatles made a few music videos back in the day.
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How come when Brittany Spears is touring, she looks like perfection, but when photographed in public with just her kid and leech of a "husband", she looks just like another overfed woman from Wisconsin?

Just an overfed guy from Wisconsin...
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Decadence is a feminist issue....
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Yeah -- I didn't get that either...
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Somebody pointed me at a book on Amazon and I ended up surfing books on sexual politics. One of the surprising ones proposed that decadence is driven by women in the US and the West. Instead of being vilified, they're what's happenin' now. I pondered it for a while and concluded that the author might be onto something. Decadent men die pretty quickly - John Belushi, Chris Farley, et al. Decadent women seem to be propped up as idols by the media - Paris Hilton, et al. Fundamentally, Paris Hilton is a famous consumer. That's what she does. Because of the money, they let her do a little of this and that...now she's a model, now she's a reality TV pop tart, now she's a singer... . Pull up a picture of her mother...she's better looking than either daughter, so it's not about looks. Seems like decadence to me.
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If I'm going to be a moderator along with tdog, I need to see some action. God exists vs. God does not exist. The game is afoot

Or, as Mark Knopfler wrote: "Two men say they're Jesus. One of 'em must be wrong."
even better, both are wrong.

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