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    the f**king f**ker. Anyone seen inside it?

    I've seen a couple of clips of this bizarre, bleeding edge of tube tech amp head online a couple of time, and wonder if anyone has seen it up close, or (heaven forbid) actually saw inside it? There's apparently handfuls of tubes all over in it, like numbering more in the dozens...

    The designer is one of those mad genius types who spent the last decade or so building crazy analog synths.

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    And again, can you provide a link to whatever this is?
    Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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    Hmmm... black tolex, with rubber corners and a few twiddly knobs - looks like a zillion other amps from the outside. For $5G with a truly fucked up name, you think they maybe could've come up with a raunchier outer skin.

    http://www.metasonix.com/index.php?o...ask=view&id=36.

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    that's come up before in a previous thread and it turns out (as I understand) that was a joke

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    Nope, it's for real. Those "rubber corners" are actually made from Bob Moog's dangleberries.

    The designer is Eric Barbour, you can see more of his messed-up work at metasonix.com, such as the "Anal Probe" and "Scrotum Smasher" distortion pedals.
    "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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    I don't mean to say it doesn't exist. Here, look for yourself:

    http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...33f555d6fccc1e

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    Hey you can get it as a plug in for your daw

    http://muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtop...303ada33625b98

    BTW think there should be an AO warning on the Name/logo panel.
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    well what do you know...I didn't think a guy who would build a 23 tube machine would make a VST version of it as well...

    thanks for picking up where I left of on the links, guys. and also, thanks for the gut shot. that's a very interesting view of this freak.

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    Lmao it looks like a computer from the late 60's... "...and now, we will add in binary...."

    Seriously though, wow, that is a lot of parts for a tube amp. If it is using only NOS tubes it must cost a fortune to re tube, but I guess if the sticker price really is $5K? you aren't too concerned about it.

    I wish I was an eccentric tube genius, I could use the $

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grun View Post
    I wish I was an eccentric tube genius, I could use the $
    Come on, how many of these things do you think Eric Barbour sells in a year? 5 grand amps covered in obscenities don't strike me as a terribly good business model.
    "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grun View Post
    Lmao it looks like a computer from the late 60's... "...and now, we will add in binary...."

    Seriously though, wow, that is a lot of parts for a tube amp. If it is using only NOS tubes it must cost a fortune to re tube, but I guess if the sticker price really is $5K? you aren't too concerned about it.

    I wish I was an eccentric tube genius, I could use the $
    keep in mind alot of those nos tubes arent the tube types that are desired. audio tubes are in demand, but tubes designed for tv's and other applications are not in demand. how many tv enthusiasts do you see spending big on tube tv's? alot of the tubes used in tv's work fine for audio as well (some may not have a flat frequency response, but that's fine for MI use). they may be nos, but they are cheaper than new stock most of the time as there is no demand for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Conner View Post
    Come on, how many of these things do you think Eric Barbour sells in a year? 5 grand amps covered in obscenities don't strike me as a terribly good business model.
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    I think you are underestimating the trust fund rocker factor! Did you notice that he also snubbed Bill O'Riley fans on the PCB silk screeening? (FYI, He's a conservative talk/tv host who may not be internationally known.)

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    It looks like Eric Barbour has a good sense of humor. Just guessing, but I'd bet he's a fun guy to go drinkin' with. His irreverant R'n'R humor has it's place, so I'm not too offended. Add a few drug references and he'll have the sex, drugs, and R'n'R trifecta complete. Whenever I see a Metasonix ad, I think of Frank Zappa - dunno why. Similar sense of humor maybe. The new amp also has dual output sections, which I've done recently myself. You can't knock a guy for doing something different, whatever the price.

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    oh yea, I could see Frank Zappa having a couple of these on an AB switch. Metasonix looks like a shrine to his spirit.

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    I can't comment the sound of this amp but my presonal opinion is everyone who is able to produce such exterior design MUST be prescribed VERY STRONG medication or accomodated in the appropriate facility.

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    here is a link to the front graphics in high res, very offensive and gross, but better than the horrid tone of this silly thing IMO

    http://www.metasonix.com/G1000large.JPG

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    Add a few drug references and he'll have the sex, drugs, and R'n'R trifecta complete.
    I don't know about you, but that rabbit looks blown outta his mind to me. Eating your guitar (left channel, master volume), that sounds like the furry bugger has got a serious case of the munchies.

    Not being a fan of art for the sake of art, I think the idea is marginally more than cute, but hey, it's his brand of vadka not mine.
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    To put it simply I've never taken this amp seriously. And anyone who does is not someone I would take seriously. Spending five G's on this turd isn't cutting edge. It's proving a dumb point.

    Anyone with ears who's checked out the Youtube for this wad of shame will agree.

    YouTube - Metasonix F@*#ing F#%@er Dual 15-watt tube amp! IT'S COOL!

    They never even get around to making music. Just useless noise. There has to be a reason for that. They can't make any music with the thing so they want to appear cutting edge and indignant as a promo to the REAL edgy rockers out there. The rockers that too many players think they are. But when you get right down to it who can use an amp like this. the challenge to any real artist is to create something new WITHOUT creating something strange and useless.

    It's kind of like a jet ski. You buy it, run it around at top speed jumping waves for two weekends and get bored with it. Except it's probably easier to unload a used jet ski than one of these shining examples of frivality.

    Who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedmich View Post
    here is a link to the front graphics in high res, very offensive and gross, but better than the horrid tone of this silly thing IMO

    http://www.metasonix.com/G1000large.JPG
    as much as it is quite offensive, whoever did it put alot of effort into the thing. drawing all those rabbit and guitar poses and the chain of rabbit "love" took alot of detail. the infinite box was kind of funny.

    the only question is why? did they plan on someone actually buying it or was it a joke. if its a joke they put alot of effort into it.

    was probably an april fools joke that turned into a reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    They never even get around to making music. Just useless noise. There has to be a reason for that. They can't make any music with the thing
    I'm sure people said exactly the same thing about the Fuzz Face when they first heard Hendrix playing one. Of course this amp is going to sound useless and offensive to someone who's mired in the mindset of traditional blues tones.

    I think it's a load of poop too, but that's kind of the point. Metasonix's target market isn't us, it's people who want to offend people like us.
    "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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    Yeh, I get that. I'm actually really about that in my own small way. And I think the artwork is cool (and offensive). But there's a big difference between 'on the edge' and 'dead guy on the jagged rocks below'. I think this amp missed the mark by a yard. as far as I can tell by the video the thing isn't even stable. What good is having an amp full of fun wierd toys when you have to turn all the knobs down to play it. By the time you do get to a sound (tone?) that is stable (relative term) it probably won't be what you were after anyhow. The struggle is just making the thing work at all for any function.

    Anyone into this kind of thing should check out Pigtronix. Great stuff for offensive rockers. They presented in the booth across from us at NAMM. I was impressed.

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    Now here's this guy making all these devices that are bringing back what we have been getting rid of for so long, NOISE!

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    Ut O. It appears I have a bit of a galvanizing thread here.

    I think Trent Reznor ordered one, from what I either read or heard from somewhere. As long as he has a guy to do nothing but tweak the knobs....which I think he does, actually. I saw a vid of him and a handful of other musicians (I think Peter Murphy was singing) doing a cover of "Warm Leatherette" in which the sound would have been useful, and there was a guy doing nothing but sound tweaking.

    but on to the main point...

    I have more attraction to Noise Rock than your standard blues-based "Blackface" rock. Remember, Jimi made the most patriotic songs into an anthemic noise song...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capacitordeath View Post
    I have more attraction to Noise Rock than your standard blues-based "Blackface" rock.
    Notice in my post above I stipulated "useless noise". There is a difference between useful rock n' roll noise and useless noise. For most of the demonstration the amp appears to be responding only to itself without regard for the input signal. That is useless as a guitar amp and IMO it is useless noise. If I had Trents rep and enough $$$ I might buy one just to create a buzz. But unless you just want to tank five G's you should look into any return policy. Seriously, check out Pigtronix. Lots of very useful noise at a fraction of the cost.

    Chuck

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    I finally got round to watching the Youtube clip. It sounds like it's broken!

    I have a distortion pedal modded with a positive feedback control to make it go unstable, and an old Maplin kit wah modded with a resonance control that goes all the way up to self-oscillation too. If I get them both oscillating at once, it can empty a gig in 5 minutes, and I still have about $4,950 left.

    Oh, and the "bleeding edge of tube tech" would be Line6's modelling amps. Actual tube equipment doesn't have a bleeding edge any more.
    "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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    I used to think the Line6 stuff was the top of the list, but I think Roland beat them on amp modeling. There's also a couple of portable hardware VST players that seem pretty friggin awesome.

    Now...the Variax on the other hand still blows my mind. I've been hunting for a cheap 300 electric and the Workshop program.

    Metasonix should put a joystick on that thing, or a midi input. I've seen people graft a Korg Kaos pad into the body if their guitars. Get rid of the knobs all together.

    hmmm...speaking of which...wouldn't that be an interesting way to set up an amp?

    Also, I would like to say that someone on American Idol was apparently singing "Whole Lotta Love" dressed as a transvestite Elvis Presley. Thought you guys should know. Not sure why...but thought you'd want to know.

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    I don't watch American Idol because it's EVIL. Satan wants you to watch American Idol.

    In a book I have which compiles interviews with songwriters Frank Zappa laments about how most rock and pop music has been reduced to the level of wallpaper. You play rock when you want a "rock" atmosphere. Quality is not important and that's why the quality of pop and rock has become so poor. It's all about the $$$ and no one in it for the $$$ is going to put more into a product than it takes to sell it.

    American Idol is Evil.

    That isn't to say the singers aren't talented. It's just that with this kind of format as a launching pad the best that can be expected of them is more of the same boring dry wallpaper.

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    there are click tracks (interesting article here), pitch correctors (an interesting youtube clip), and such a wide range of milquetoast-ifying lobotomizing music techniques out there that one can't really be surprised that something like the effing effer would get made out of sheer spite.

    It'd be great to wang a couple of awful noodles through the PA system of an American Idol taping. See if any of the singers heads explode.

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    I resigned from commenting my views about that amp since I didn’t want to badmouth it. Now that it’s obviously done already I just make a notion that I’ve seen clips where people actually play guitar through that thing at the NAMM show: The amp sounded as hideous and unstable as it did in that “COOL” video clip. In one of the videos a lady was playing the amp for maybe about 20 seconds, then resigned to laughing at the bunny pictures. I think that pretty much summed up the usefulness of that amp: It’s more a decoration item than a serious tool for a musician.

    For some reason those clips were always removed from Youtube in a few days notice, I always wondered if Eric had his thumbs on that since we do not actually hear that amp in any of the “official” video clips. If he expects someone to pay 5K for that thing, I really understand why he does not want want anyone to hear it until it's too late. All in all, this amp and all the attention it received seems quite a sorry episode.

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    Maybe Eric/Metasonix could come here and explain what makes it worth 5k
    "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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    Ok, this site has a video clip where you can hear the amp in action:

    Metasonix G-1000: The F*cking F*cker | Gearwire

    It honestly sounds like guitar is being played through a 1/2W pocket transistor radio.

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    I think in person it would sound really fat. $5G isn't too much to ask for an original design, tone and rare amp. The guy must be really into it and that passion is commendable. Many musicians have a lot of money so let them spend it things other that designer bling, jeweled Ts and Italian shoes.

    If a musician - after long last -finds his tone then he might turn his thoughts towards Jesus.
    Tone was a large part of what made Eddie, Robben and Stevie great. It a big part of the "feedback" loop.

    The amp is also a work of art, meaning the electronics. The logo-script is rather imp.

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