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Old 10-20-2009, 12:49 AM   #316
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My acme screw and delrin nut arrived today. It's 3/8"-10 tpi. There's enough rod for 1-2 more winders. PM me if you need a chunk of it.
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not news on your winder?
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Soon I hope, I just figured out that T-shirt transfer paper is not the right stuff to use to get a pcb etching mask.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:06 AM   #319
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i made my pcb with a home made ultraviolet light source exposure box built with a old scanner box and 3 insect traps 15watt uv neon bulb....

i print pcb on normal white paper, then expose for 20min
develop with NaOH (about 1 min)
and etch with cheap and fast Hydrochloric acid and Hydrogen peroxide 3/1 solution (about 5 min)

this procedure seems fastidious.... but if you sometimes need some well done pcb (for example for onboard bass preamp or other...) it is easy and cheap

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if you need only this pcb i suggest press-n-peel sheet procedure

or

next month i will have professional PCBs

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Old 12-12-2009, 07:05 AM   #320
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I got a start on the traverse today. It's a 3/8" 10TPI acme threaded rod from McMaster Carr and a pair of cheap ball bearing races from Enco. The delrin nut came from Ebay. I made the bearing holders on the mill and turned down the journals on the lathe. Everything is a light press fit. There will be about 3" of travel depending on the final design.
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:32 PM   #321
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fine work i too started with new mechanics .... but with main motor assembly....
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Hi Elepro,
Thanks for the encouragement. What's the estimated time of arrival on the "professional" PCB? I just got a UV curing station for a different process I use but I don't even know where to get photo-sensitive PCB. Is it something every electronics house will sell?

I found this stuff on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320449098787
it's blue, stick-on film and it's only 150mm x 200mm which I think is big enough but not sure. (That place also sells 1602 LCD displays for $7.50)

Here's another kit that includes the developer:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260519613839
It doesn't give the width but it ships from a domestic address.

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Old 12-12-2009, 09:23 PM   #323
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David, most electronics parts suppliers sell photo sensitive PCB and even kits.

Here's one:

Circuit Fabrication Kits from Allied Electronics
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I got a start on the traverse today. It's a 3/8" 10TPI acme threaded rod from McMaster Carr and a pair of cheap ball bearing races from Enco. The delrin nut came from Ebay. I made the bearing holders on the mill and turned down the journals on the lathe. Everything is a light press fit. There will be about 3" of travel depending on the final design.
Looks good David, here's a pic of my traverse when I was doing mock-up. Sorry I don't have any pics since then my inlaws borrowed my camera.
(6 months ago and haven't returned it yet)

Try "Press-n-Peel Blue" for making a PCB, it's the easiest way to go.

(BTW, it's all hardware-store parts, ACE, Home Depot etc)
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:20 AM   #325
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Hi Elepro,
Thanks for the encouragement. What's the estimated time of arrival on the "professional" PCB? I just got a UV curing station for a different process I use but I don't even know where to get photo-sensitive PCB. Is it something every electronics house will sell?

I found this stuff on Ebay:
photosensitive dry film; PCB; amateur/ 10 piece - eBay (item 320449098787 end time Dec-14-09 19:06:38 PST)
it's blue, stick-on film and it's only 150mm x 200mm which I think is big enough but not sure. (That place also sells 1602 LCD displays for $7.50)

Here's another kit that includes the developer:
Dry Film Photoresist Roll + Developer - Copper Clad PCB - eBay (item 260519613839 end time Jan-05-10 20:38:54 PST)
It doesn't give the width but it ships from a domestic address.

hello,

about professional PCB i really don't know because i paid for the service more than 40 days ago but i did not receive yet.... some days ago i threatened to start a paypal dispute and then they said that pcbs have been shipped 20 days ago..... but they will make and ship new pcbs again...

i think you can find photo-sensitive PCB at your electronic components local store....

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first steps in my new main motor assembly.... not wonderful but very heavy



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That should stand the test of time. It might even survive armageddon.
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.... arrived... i'll test them in the next days.....

merry Christmas!

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That looks very nice with the silkscreen Elepro. When can we get ours over here in the states?
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i have ten of those...
in these days i'll test one and then i'm ready to ship....
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i'm testing it....
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it works fine....

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for info about sell...



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Ahh, finally there. So your price comes in at around $145.00-USD for a blank PCB and 3 PICs
(or $217.00-USD for a complete built and tested board)

and at last look at suitable stepper motors were like around $30/pair, and last look at stepper drivers was around $44/pair off eBay. So we're talking around $219.00-USD and whatever the cost is associated with fabrication of the actual winder, and traverse mechanism (under $100-USD?).

So then as a reasonable ball-park price figure one should be looking at a little over $300-USD and a bit of fabrication to get into your CNC winder, ...correct?
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Brad that looks about right to me, I came with a rough estimate of under $400. Don't forget the power supply transformer for $15.
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Andrew, i reply here to your PM so it's useful for everyone interested....

the driver posted in my POST#105 is not well tested....

I built it but after some problems with them David King sent me 2 dragon driver so I left my drivers...
....after mounting Dragon drivers i discovered that problems was not in my drivers but in power supply transformer i used....

...winder in youtube videos has the dragon drivers...

now i'm building a new complete electronics with those my drivers.... so i'll test well in some days or in the next week....

... this could be a cheap solution.... it is a 3 axis driver but you can use 2... but could be some difficult in wiring with that connector for who has not experience.....
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here is a picture for drilling panel:

in black mounting screws and display window
in red push buttons
in green hole for wire block screws.... You can make not these but You have to disassemble unit from panel for wiring.... (i will not make in my new electronics)

remember to print in 100% dimensions and check it before drilling
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My Mouser order showed up yesterday. I hope the Italian postal god is in good humor for the pcb.
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PCB is in the house. 7 days transit, incredible!
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yes it's a record ....

please let me know if all parts in mouser list are ok with pcb....
...and let us see your complete controller....


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Assembly photos, all the parts are here, everything fits. It's fun.
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I wonder if I need stand-offs under the display? I don't think so but I thought I'd check before I solder the display in place..
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Now if I can just remember where I put those PICs..
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you can solder display without anything else....
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Found the PICs but I don't know which one goes where. One has tape over it, is it IC1?
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yes, it is IC1
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in your last photo both dip28 socket are in the wrong side
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I lined up all the notches. I hope ICs are in the right orientation?
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the left one is reverse side!!!

you had watch the silkscreen... i made for this

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suitable stepper motor ?

Hi Elpro

Is this a suitable motor for the winder
Nidec Servo KH56KM2-951
here´s the spec sheet


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Is this a suitable motor for the winder
Nidec Servo KH56KM2-951
here´s the spec sheet


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Thanks in advance Andrew
datasheet says yes... and better than the one you link in your PM

how many costs? where you buy?

here a supply for your configuration...

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