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    Why all the hate for Sarah Palin

    What the the source of the seething hatred for Sarah Palin? Before she was picked as McCain's running mate, few people had heard of her. Now she's being treated like a criminal. Contrast the insane media coverage she has received since McCain/Palin lost, to the post election coverage of John Edwards.

    Call me naive, but what is this about? Coverage of her is second only to the still dead Michael Jackson.

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    The Right would like her to be their Poster Girl. Her views are pretty extreme. She declares herself a Christian but her actions are often questionable. Her understanding of issues, as she expresses them , seem elementary at best . Then there is the way she is easily offended by the press. She wants to play hardball, but when thrown a hard fast ball she cries foul. Now she has quit because it was too tough for her. Imagine if she HAD run for President, it would be a lot tougher.

    I agree the media has spent far too much space on her. Let her go away.

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    Seething hatred? Or just a willingness NOT to overlook anything she does that could remotely be considered a negative.

    Clearly it is not a liberal/conservative thing - they don;t hate John McCain. Treated like a criminal? No, they are reporting on the various investigations that take place into her activities. Maybe the investigations are ill advised or even vindictive within Alaskan politics, but they are happening nonetheless. The news reports on it. Maybe too gleefully, but they are not making the story up.

    The main problem with Palin for those on the other side of the aisle are that she tends to be self-righteous and smug, but doesn;t back that up with her actions. Yes, politics is full of hypocrites, but that doesn't make her less of one.

    And I don;t know what you read, but I don;t see John Edwards getting a free pass.
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    Her views are extreme?

    Quote Originally Posted by billyz View Post
    The Right would like her to be their Poster Girl. Her views are pretty extreme. She declares herself a Christian but her actions are often questionable. Her understanding of issues, as she expresses them , seem elementary at best . Then there is the way she is easily offended by the press. She wants to play hardball, but when thrown a hard fast ball she cries foul. Now she has quit because it was too tough for her. Imagine if she HAD run for President, it would be a lot tougher.

    I agree the media has spent far too much space on her. Let her go away.
    I guess it's all a matter of perspective. I believe her instant popularity with republicans scared the shit out of the left and the state media has been given orders to grind away until she is vapor. Smaller government, which is her thing, sounds pretty attractive to me right now and anyone else who's paying attention. Her interviews during the campaign were not stellar, but is there ANY doubt in your mind perky Katie and friends weren't set on destroying her? And if you want to address coherence, please explain Joe Biden. I'm a republican and I am embarrassed for him every time he opens his mouth. Biden doesn't have a fraction the intellect that Palin does. And he's next in line. And Pelosi is behind him. From my perspective, that is a frightening scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    Seething hatred? Or just a willingness NOT to overlook anything she does that could remotely be considered a negative.

    Clearly it is not a liberal/conservative thing - they don;t hate John McCain. Treated like a criminal? No, they are reporting on the various investigations that take place into her activities. Maybe the investigations are ill advised or even vindictive within Alaskan politics, but they are happening nonetheless. The news reports on it. Maybe too gleefully, but they are not making the story up.

    The main problem with Palin for those on the other side of the aisle are that she tends to be self-righteous and smug, but doesn;t back that up with her actions. Yes, politics is full of hypocrites, but that doesn't make her less of one.

    And I don;t know what you read, but I don;t see John Edwards getting a free pass.
    Like I said, it is a matter of perspective. Just look at the Sanford thing. I was squirming as I listened to the moron dumping his sad love story on a very willing media. The media of course is eating it up, and he is feeding it too them. But even he doesn't get the coverage Palin gets. She was a running mate for a loosing presidential candidate, and the governor of a very small state population wise. The media leave McCain alone because he's not all that popular, and certainly not as popular as Palin. I'm from AZ and I hope we get a decent conservative to run against McCain next term.

    As for Edwards, outside of right wing blogs, you have to dig through the back pages to find out what he's doing. The point of mentioning Edwards is that he really was corrupt, but never got the wall to wall coverage Palin has been getting.

    And yes, this attack on Palin isn't done in the spirit of exposing crime and corruption on her part. It is about hatred and it is unprecedented in terms of the media coverage any former vice presidential candidate has received in recent history.

    And if you believe otherwise she hasn't been singled out for special treatment, the I have a healtcare plan to sell you.

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    Sanford is getting a ton of press, a lot more than Sarah Palin is getting, even with her recent "I quit" statement. You think Elliot Spitzer got any less?

    I believe her instant popularity with republicans scared the shit out of the left and the state media has been given orders to grind away until she is vapor.
    Interesting idea, you mean the "state media" that would have been under control of the Bush administration when Palin popped onto the scene?

    We on the left were not scared shitless of Palin, in fact we often mentioned wow, this broad has really woken up the republican campaign. I like so many of us felt she was woefully lacking in qualification, but as a campaign ploy adding her to the ticket was absolutely brilliant. At the time. Then it took very little time to realize that she lacked the depth and knowledge for the position. Not because we managed to dig up some esoteric facts from her past or something. No, she did it by running her mouth, all by herself. She made Dan Quayle look smart.

    She wants to limit sex education in schhols to abstinence only instruction. That means the school can ONLY tell students about not having sex. Yet in her very own home, her daughter was living proof that it doesn;t work.

    She told us all with a straight face that she had lots of foreign affairs experience because Russia was just across the Bering Straits from her state. Either she was a moron and actually believed that, or she figured we were all such morons that we would believe it.

    No one had to do anything dastardly to recognize these and other examples.

    if you want to address coherence, please explain Joe Biden
    We on the left, cringe when we hear old Joe has something to say, and we often roll our eyes when he does. And count on the fact that whatever he says will be ridiculed by right wing radio ALL DAY LONG by the unrelenting one note song of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, et al.

    Joe isn;t stupid, he just doesn;t know how to keep his mouth shut and he is a BS artist. He is actually a pretty astute politician underneath that, while Palin is not.

    But I offer one small piece of moral guidance: the sins of one man are not diminished by the sins of another.

    In context then, whatever Biden may do wrong doesn't make Sarah Palin any less of a twit.


    Frankly we had all but forgotten Palin until her recent abdication announcement.
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    I have a different take on it. I'm not a Republican (nor Democrat), and I think I tend to take less of a partisan POV on these things; though perhaps my disdain of all things Democrat colors that POV, so be it. But I think the media was extremely pissed off that the McCain campaign took them completely by surprise and caught them off-gaurd with the Palin as VP candidate announcement. They had their suspicions of who McCain's pick would be, and they were all giddy as they discoussed amongst themselves who it was and how it would play out, and then WHAMMO!!! Out of nowhere comes Palin, an attractive but conservative WOMAN; they totally scooped the Dem's with a woman on the ticket after Oshama had blown off Hillary and picked Biden. The press was denied their "right" to vet the condidate prior to the announcement, They were made to look like fools with all of their pugnacious punditry, and they were pissed off about that and they took it out on Palin. How dare the McCain campaign nominate someone without first letting them know about it, without giving someone the scoop and letting them kick it around and talk about it like the experts that they think they are. They vetted her like they've never vetted anyone; of course, they never vetted Oshama, the illegal immigrant that he is, AT ALL!!!!! But that's a different topic.

    I think they also were scared shitless, as you put it. They saw the incredible excitment she brought to a lifeless campaign, and since they were on a mission to get Oshama elected (they did serve as the campaigns public relations dept, and continue now as the unofficial White House PR staff) they attacked Palin with full force. Only a partisan would or could deny it. It was shameful, and continues to be. But it was effective, wasn't it?

    Palin somehow brings out the partisanship angst that so many on either side thrive on, and what is so ruinous to this country. People go into partisan mode and they turn off their logic other than to use it to rationalize their irrational positions. You see it in poists here. "Now she has quit because it was too tough for her" That is a simplistic and spoon fed partisan response displaying a complete lack of research into the topic. Ask someone from Alaska (not a Dem hack) and it makes perfect sense to them, that by stepping down now she allows the Lt Gov to take over, and unless he totally blows it during the short time left for this term he's a shoe in for the next term. By doing this she gives the party the best chance to keep a Republican in office for another term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyz View Post
    ... She declares herself a Christian but her actions are often questionable.
    I'm not aware of any of her actions that call her faith into question. Can you please a few?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasserl View Post
    they never vetted Oshama, the illegal immigrant that he is, AT ALL!!!!!
    Oh come on, you don't really believe this nonsense do you?
    If you do, you should take off your tinfoil hat before you work on an amp....just for safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Ingram View Post
    I'm not aware of any of her actions that call her faith into question. Can you please a few?
    For starters I am from Alaska. I was at first a supporter of Sarah Palin. I thought she got a raw deal from Murkowski and was glad when she beat him.

    However, the more we learn about her the less we like her. I used to be proud to be from AK, but I often don't mention it now. her poll numbers are dropping in AK especially after she quit to pursue her book deals and speaking tour for the good of Alaska.

    She threw quite a few stones at Obama, harder and lower than just about any one else. But, that I guess is a Christian thing to do in todays christian world view. She let her daugther's boyfriend live with them and have sex with her daughter out of wedlock. But again, the new christian morality. Do as I say not as I do. She used her political office to try to fire her X brother in law and then fired the Chief of police when he refused to act in an unethical manner on her behalf. WWJD ? She sought to ban books she deemed unchristian. She has no problem Leaving her elected office to pursue financial gain. But, she is a team player who will go to the end fighting? What does the Bible say about the love of Money? I could site many other examples but I choose to not spend much time thinking about her kind. Oh, No Global Warming? Well, she is smarter than , hmmmmmmm hmmmmmm. well I can't come up with anyone, but hmmmmm, nope. You Betcha


    Anyone who wants to support her will find justification for doing so. I can not but I once did. BTW, she bought her popularity for $1200 per person in Alaska, now that was smart.

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    From the discussion here, we can see what the press was able to accomplish during the election cycle.
    It wasn't Palin who made the comment about the proximity to Russia, but Tina Fey on the used to be clever Saturday Night Live.
    Palin also had nothing to do with the book choice at the Wassilla library, she was not even mayor at the time.
    As for her "attacks" for BHO, she merely pointed out his innexperience, as compared to hers. As a product of affirmative action, BHO had access to education that the majority of us gringos can't afford. Since we have yet to hear what his grades were, I assume they were less than spectacular. The press constantly belittled GW on his ignorance, but later we find out that his grades were higher than Kerry's.
    I don't know what her plans are, but I think she may be thinking about heading a real conservative party, as the republicans are little better than the democrats, when it comes to OUR money. If you have been keeping up with the T.E.A. Party movement, you know what the winning platform will be be in 2012!

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    Sadly, the grip that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox news have on America has made it difficult for Americans to see the role that the news cycle and 24hr news-only services have played in making this story seem pertinent or newsworthy. The thing is that when you have to fill up that much air-time and fill it up with something that people might think they have not heard before, AND you have to do it with as small a staff and overhead as possible, what you deem to be content worth running starts to change. Federal politics and entertainment news makes up maybe 1% of what could be news, but are unfortunately expanded to take up about 75% of the space allotted to news (the rest being sports and weather and the odd grisly crime).

    That being said, I'd be curious if anybody remembers what the press reaction to Geraldine Ferraro was after the Mondale/Ferraro ticket lost to Reagan. The wiki entry here suggests that her treatment by the press was not dissimilar to their treatment of Palin ( Geraldine Ferraro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). So, conceivably it has more to do with female candidates for top positions that with their particular brand of politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    From the discussion here, we can see what the press was able to accomplish during the election cycle.
    It wasn't Palin who made the comment about the proximity to Russia, but Tina Fey on the used to be clever Saturday Night Live.
    Palin also had nothing to do with the book choice at the Wassilla library, she was not even mayor at the time.

    I don't know what her plans are, but I think she may be thinking about heading a real conservative party, as the republicans are little better than the democrats, when it comes to OUR money. If you have been keeping up with the T.E.A. Party movement, you know what the winning platform will be be in 2012!
    Quote from Time .com

    Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

    FYI, My dearly departed mother was a librarian and she would have been horrified at the mere mention of banning any book. She was also deeply religious. But knew the dangerous path book banning leads to.

    Yes she did say you can see Russia from Alaska.
    Qoute Esquire Magazine.
    "I can see Russia from my house." I know that's how Tina Fey spoofed Palin on SNL. The real quote is: "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."

    Just wanted to clarify that She did say and do those things. Not that I care.

    Sarah Palin Loves the press when she is in charge of what they say, and demonizes them when they don’t fall in line behind her.

    And for the record , I do not Hate Sarah Palin

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_226462.html
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    In the above example Tina Fey does engage in a little comic adjustment.

    But there was another scene in which Fey is spouting absolute gibberish as Palin. We think it is funny making fun of Palin, until we find out - via side by side video - that Fey was quoting Palin word for word from a then recent speech.

    Palin:
    "Though it is honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing their term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make.

    Clarence Page responds better than I could:
    "Countless others?" Like who?
    "Higher calling?" Like what?
    "Different standard?" Like how?


    PAlin immediately steps up and blames "the media" for picking on her. Yet when Hillary CLinton complained about the press (apparently Palin is not the only "victim" of the media) Palin said Clinton should avoid any "perceived whine" about it. "I think she does herself a disservice even to mention it," said Palin.
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    I realize that you folks back east think Time, The New York Times, and The Washington Post print nothing but gospel. But where I live, we prefer a less opined view, and would rather have just the facts. One has to look hard sometimes, to find direct quotes, not taken out of context. The direct quote, when asked by ABC News on 9-11-08, "what insight have you gained from living so close to Russia"? "They're our next door neighbors, you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska".
    Couric asked how Russia's closeness enhanced her foreign policy experience, she responded "well it certaintly does, because our next door neighbors are foreign countries". We all know Alaska's other border is Canada.
    The issue of removing a overtly homosexual book from the Wassilla library, was being considered before Sarah was elected mayor, and when elected she asked the librarian what the options were to get it done. Like all mayors, she was attempting to respond to the folks desires, who elected her. I realize many of you from large cities don't think of calling the mayor to express your opinion, but in small towns, our mayors are expected to solicit our opinions, and act on them if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    Seething hatred? Or just a willingness NOT to overlook anything she does that could remotely be considered a negative.
    As opposed to the willingness to overlook ALL the negatives of Robama Hood and his merry gang of questionable associations and unaccountable czars nobody voted for?

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    Once again, the sins of one man are not diminished by the sins of another. This is just the Bill CLinton defense warmed over. Whatever a republican is accused of, the response was "Oh yeah? Well Bill CLinton..." as if that makes it OK.

    If you have beefs with Obama, start a thread about it. But it has zero to do with why we might not find Sarah Palin a paragon of virtue.

    The original premise of this thread was that there is a lot of "hate" thrown at Palin. Discussing why we feel bod about Obama or good for that matter, doesn;t get us any closer to why some of us feel towards Palin as we do.

    Speaking for myself, I don;t hate Sarah Palin, I just don;t have much respect for her.

    I have not read Time, The Washington Post, or The New York Times in many years. I heard the whole quote in context. it doesn;t help. The fact that Russia is just across the water from Alaska doesn;t give Palin any foreign affairs experience. She never interacts with the Russians. never had to negotiate anything with them. They are just something she can see from her side of the sea. If you lived across the street from the Pentagon, would that equip you to deal with military issues? So either Palin actually believes this, in which case she is a fool. or she is just saying it thinking it will fool us into believing it, which is just sad.

    I realize many of you from large cities don't think of calling the mayor to express your opinion, but in small towns, our mayors are expected to solicit our opinions, and act on them if possible.
    How nice of you to try to stereotype those on the other side of your argument. I for one live in a town where you CAN call the mayor. Doesn't change my view of Palin. It is one thing to act on the will of the people, but the people don;t always want things that a mayor should do. Book burning, lynch mobs, overt discrimination and segregation - no I am not accusing HER of these things - are all examples of the will of the people.
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    I believe you folks are overlooking the original point, that the press is determined to blemish Sarah Palin. All the talk during the election centered around her inexperience, although she had a lot of political management experience. No one asked BHO, or even Biden what gave them foreign policy experience, (how about I can see New York from my house?)
    Listen to BHO without his teleprompter, and he is less literate than Palin, or even McCain. And don't get Joe started, even his wife said he had a choice, secretary of state of vice president, oh wait, she misspoke.
    The real story is that Sarah comes on as real people to a lot of us who are disgusted with the way washington is being run, and the left is scared to death that people will relate to her. Don't think for a minute that the socialists now in power will be able to whitewash their way out of the next election, and a conservative like Sarah will look pretty good in 2012

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    Don't think for a minute that the socialists now in power will be able to whitewash their way out of the next election
    OK, if you are just going to quote standard Sedan Hannity strident rhetoric, I lose interest.

    The original point was that a Palin sympathiser CLAIMS there is a - to turn a phrase - vast left wing conspiracy to blemish Palin. And over here on dry land we see it is she DID all the things she was criticized for. Hardly a conspiracy.

    Sarah Palin DIDN'T have a lot of government experience. She was a small town mayor for a short time and then was Governor of ALaska for half a term. Wasilla has no social services to administer, it is a small town. Alaska has no budgetary balancing problems other than to decide how large a rebate check to send out to the voters from the oil money. You will want to counter that Obama has a short resume. Maybe so, but that doesn't lengthen Palin's.

    The difference between Palin claiming foreign affairs experience because Russia wasn;t far away, and Obamas lack of experience in foreign affairs is precisely what you mention. He never made such a BS claim. If he were to have said "Gee I have foreign affairs experience, I visited the UN on a high school trip," you'd laugh until you peed yourselves. When Palin does it, you seem to think it is something to put in her resume.

    And once again, whatever foreign affairs experience shortcomings Obama has don;t do anything to make Palin's claims any more legitimate.

    And once again, whatever buffoonery comes out of Joe Biden's mouth doesn't make Palin's bullshit any less the bullshit. I don't hear anyone on this side of the aisle gushing over what a great staesman Biden is. He says something stupid, we cringe. Jon Stewart makes fun of him, the Fox folks have an orgasm, and we hear about it all over the internet. Biden is not getting a pass.

    And I think the prompter remark is silly. I have seen Obama talk off the cuff many times, and he is remarkably articulate. COmpare to the two Bushs. W could barely get his words straight. The elder Bush as no dummy, but he had trouble making complete sentences unless reading a speech. You may not like what Obama has to say, but he has no trouble saying it. Everyone stumbles now and then, like Obama saying the wrong number of states. If Palin wanted to refer to Japanese invasion of the Aleutians in 1942 and said 1842 by mistake, no one would really belive she thought world war 2 happened in the 1800s, any more than anyone actually believed Obama didn;t know how many states there are. WOuld anyone climb all over her for it? Sure, just as Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity et al were trying to tell us Obama said there were 57 states because in his heart he was really thinking of the 57 arab speaking countries in the world.
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    I think the point of this thread is that the press is only bad for Palin, but gives the left a pass on their gaffs. Maybe you missed this inspiring BHO moment.YouTube - Barack Obama Stuttering Uh Montage

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    OK, so the guy stumbles. Back to Palin...

    The darn media gives the left a pass. Sorry, on my TV I see Fox news and a whole passel of shows like Hannity's, Glenn Beck's, O'Reilly's etc. And I am not seeing this pass. Wall Street Journal and the Washington Times giving him a pass?
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    Where I live, we only have antenna TV, I don't get FOX news channel, but on sunday I sometimes watch FOX news sunday with Chris Wallace. I get ABC,(did a health care infomercial for the white house a couple of weeks ago), would not allow dissenting views, and refused to allow paid advertising to run during that time with a different point of view. PBS, saw Gwen Ifill, (I'm certaintly impartial even though I wrote a book about how electing a partially black man to the presidency is the greatest thing since sliced bread). CBS, Couric,(let me get a couple of hours with Sarah Palin, and I'm sure I can edit it get 20 minutes or so of her looking bad). I also get NBC, although I haven't watched it much since the digital change has made the channel much better.
    Isn't it great that you get an impartial view to all the fawning I have to put up with? Didn't the president mention a while back, that FOX was the only organization that wasn't in the tank for him. One can only hope that someday all the alphabets will only report impartially, and people will be forced to make up their minds based on facts and not opinion.

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    Rather than throw stones at Sarah Palin, just give her an open mike and 20 seconds. I have yet to hear her speak for more than 20 seconds with a vocabulary higher than that of an orange road cone. What frightens me is that the Right seems very satisfied with THIS level of politician.

    I dont have problems with conservatives as leaders, or women as leaders. But when youre talking about higher offices... Id like to see someone smarter than myself at the helm. After having heard Palin speak I wouldnt say shes any smarter than the coil of solder I used to replace some tone pots in a guitar this weekend.

    Ive got no problems with her perse, but to be as plain as I can about this, the trackball on my PC is more qualified than she to be Leader of the Free World.

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    Is this the fellow who's so much smarter than the rest of us?
    I'll take honesty over eloquence anyday.
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    Your rhetoric is as tiresome as that which you accuse others of.

    If you honestly think that finding a moment where Obama looks bad as a speaker is truly representative, then you have simply not heard him in interview or in dialog. he is a very articulate speaker whether impromptu or from script, whether you agree with him of not. And like anyone, he can stumble. I forgive Palin honest stumbles, while I cannot forgive when she bullshits and makes things up.

    If you have a prepared statement that you planned to read from a script, and it doesn;t come up on the prompter, well gee, no kidding, you look foolish.

    And if you think that is an honest assessment of the man, then you are exactly the kind of opponent I like to see.
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    Which comes back to the original question. Sarah misspeaks, she's dumber than solder, The One misspeaks, give him a pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    I realize that you folks back east think Time, The New York Times, and The Washington Post print nothing but gospel.
    No, we do not. That is ridiculous. The WP has become a right wing tool; Time is just childish, and the NYT has come down a long way from its peak.

    The main objection to Palin is that when she discusses the issues, she shows that she has insufficient knowledge to be vice president or president. Can you not tell by listening to her?

    Her political rallies during the campaign were a sight to behold. Talk about incitement!

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    Maybe that's the answer, Sarah needs to go to teleprompter school so she will appear smarter, as I've pointed out BHO is lost without someone telling him what to say. He even uses teleprompter at press conferences, and failing that, sets up a large TV screen in the audience that his aids could communicate to him what he thinks.
    Sarah is more qualified to run this country, than the fellow who won by a few million votes, but she was beat up by the press so badly, that even people who have good analytical skills think poorly of her.
    I once worked for a power company who's chief engineer was brilliant, (helped build the first DC link into the east/west grid, promoted cogeneration in the Houston area), but when the fellow spoke, you would think he never made it out of high school. Appearances are not allways good indicators of ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    Maybe that's the answer, Sarah needs to go to teleprompter school so she will appear smarter, as I've pointed out BHO is lost without someone telling him what to say.
    Both have done interviews without teleprompters. One does well, the other is a disaster.

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    "none is so blind as he who will not see"
    Sarah doesn't get her questions in advance!
    YouTube - Chip Reid and Helen Thomas take Robert Gibbs to task

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    "none is so blind as he who will not see"
    Exactly

    So I guess you agree with her that if she were president, she would have the "Department of Law" to protect her.

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    Since Alaska has a Department of Law, run by the attorney general, I guess she thought there was a national version. Maybe when she visits all 57 states, she'll realize her error.
    We can play "is too-is not" from now on, and not answer the threads question. The media will continue to demonize Sarah in the hopes of destroying her before the next election. They saw how she energized the conservative base in the last election, and brought the McCain/Palin ticket within a couple of million votes of winning. If real conservatives run next time, the socialists don't have a chance, after demonstrating their agenda to the electorate.

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    My two cents. I think what she pulled off as McCain's VP nominee with such short notice was remarkable. I think the media's attempt at villifying her was despicable and not unexpected. Most of this thread has been a comparison of apples and oranges. Mrs. Palin wasn't the Presidential nominee, she was a Veep nominee, with more executive experience than both Dem nominees combined. She was in the running for an executive position, not legislative. Two completely different worlds. Telling people what to do and getting people to do things aren't the same.

    The flagrant bias was immediately noticeable during the campaigns. With the exception of Fox News, every large media outlet was firmly behind the Democratic party, as they should be. They have been since I can remember, so why hide it? I remember the Reagan/Mondale campaigns and the sexist slant then was wrong. And if I recall, it was only a couple weeks before Mrs. Palin resigned that she was cleared of all ethics charges. Didn't you see all the coverage?

    Politics is a dirty, dirty game, played with other people's money in order to get more of other peoples money, these days. I'm a Libertarian, personally, so I prefer nobody stand in my way, slow me down, or tell me what to do, to the point of intruding on others' rights. I'd much rather we remove every single politician with no prior experience running a town, city, county, state, or entity designed to make money. Lawyers, doctors, trust fund babies, legacies, all must go. This past election was nothing more than an attempt for people to assuage their guilt (or imprinted guilt) on past wrongs done to minorites, or as I like to call it, affirmative action. Though, we really would'nt be much, if any, better off if McCain had won. Now where's my change?

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    Since she has royally shot herself in the foot ( quitting in mid game ) she has effectively removed herself from the running for political office. However , I am sure we have not heard the last from her ,as she will be coming out with a book, radio show, and as many speaking engagements as her publicity agents can contract . She just does not have the credentials to back up her words now. She will become another talking head, like Rush limbaugh. She will not have to answer the tough questions and can spout off as she pleases with impunity.

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