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    CNC Winder Controller Board group Buy

    At the request of Elepro I'm starting this thread and coordinating this group buy.

    He has 5 assembled and tested controller boards at 120 euros ($162.84 USD as of this post) each. These are not kits. You can read about the board in the other threads.

    I will be taking the orders and shipping them out. The shipping is extra, but shouldn't be more than $7-10 for domestic USPS Priority mail. If you are overseas it might make more sense for Elepro to ship them. I'll be taking payments through PayPal.

    I'm still working out some details, but that's it in a nut shell.

    You can PM me if you are interested.
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    here's the user guide....

    bye
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    The other electronics parts you'll need add up to about $22 from Mouser.
    Not worth a group buy for that i think.

    Oh wait! Elepro has included all the other components and assembled the boards? That's great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David King View Post
    The other electronics parts you'll need add up to about $22 from Mouser.
    Not worth a group buy for that i think.

    Oh wait! Elepro has included all the other components and assembled the boards? That's great.
    Yes, the boards are assembled and tested!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Elepro- View Post
    here's the user guide....

    bye
    Hi Elepro

    Can you tell what changes have been made in the 1.1 version of the controller and would it be possible to upgrade the version 1 that I have from you ?

    Cheers

    Andrew

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    i sent you a PM right now .... you and David King will receive updated PIC for free in the next days....

    ...new version fix some bugs and add possibility to changing tensioner value during winding....

    ciao

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    here's some pics of my cnc winder....
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    here's the first of group-buy controllers...

    ...at this moment partecipants are:

    David Schwab
    rhoads

    ... we need other four...

    bye
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    I've moved this back over to the pickup makers forum just incase people haven't looked in tools and winders lately.
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    I'll try to make some progress on my winder and post photos later this week. Hopefully that will inspire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    I've moved this back over to the pickup makers forum just incase people haven't looked in tools and winders lately.
    It's really about time we have a buy-n-sell subforum, any chance you can shmooze the powers that be (tboy?) onto a dedicated "Winders Market" (like a Farmers market for winders) sub-forum inside this pickup makers forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David King View Post
    I'll try to make some progress on my winder and post photos later this week. Hopefully that will inspire.
    mmmmh... i'm afraid of your project... i think when i will see it i will want to re-build my mechanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedHouse View Post
    It's really about time we have a buy-n-sell subforum, any chance you can shmooze the powers that be (tboy?) onto a dedicated "Winders Market" (like a Farmers market for winders) sub-forum inside this pickup makers forum?
    That's not a bad idea.

    We do have this though.

    Flea Market

    But one just for pickup makers would be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    That's not a bad idea.

    We do have this though.

    Flea Market

    But one just for pickup makers would be cool.
    Yes, I mean one specifically inside this subforum, much like the way the showcase was added some time ago.

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    You might get more eyeballs by having a thread stickied to the top of this forum for a while instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Elepro- View Post
    i sent you a PM right now .... you and David King will receive updated PIC for free in the next days....

    ...new version fix some bugs and add possibility to changing tensioner value during winding....

    ciao
    Hi Elepro

    I was just wondering if you had managed to send the updated pic, there´s no rush as I have to get some guitars ready for the guitar ranch show at Soave at the end of the month and won`t be finishing the winder till the beginning of May.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Kerr View Post
    You might get more eyeballs by having a thread stickied to the top of this forum for a while instead.
    That's not a bad idea either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the great waldo View Post
    Hi Elepro

    I was just wondering if you had managed to send the updated pic, there´s no rush as I have to get some guitars ready for the guitar ranch show at Soave at the end of the month and won`t be finishing the winder till the beginning of May.

    Cheers

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    I don't think Elepro has sent these out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David King View Post
    I don't think Elepro has sent these out yet.
    Hi David

    Thanks for the message, i´m in no rush at the moment, i´ve got to much to do as it is.

    All the best

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    excuse me for late... i have bricklayers in my new lab

    i will ship tomorrow....

    bye

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    Hi Elepro

    I hope there´s not to much dust in the lab, and make sure to give the workers wine and beer after the job´s done and not before.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by the great waldo View Post
    Hi Elepro

    I hope there´s not to much dust in the lab, and make sure to give the workers wine and beer after the job´s done and not before.

    Cheers

    Andrew
    Bricklayers in Italy work ON wine and beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak View Post
    Bricklayers in Italy work ON wine and beer.

    Could this explain the tower in Pisa ?

    Cheers

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    Last edited by the great waldo; 04-09-2010 at 09:33 AM. Reason: missed a line

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    updated PIC shipped...

    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak View Post
    Bricklayers in Italy work ON wine and beer.
    yes... tomorrow is the last day with them

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    PIC has arrived!

    I'm still buried in work but I'll need to start winding again soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David King View Post
    PIC has arrived!

    I'm still buried in work but I'll need to start winding again soon.
    Mine arrived aswell, the rest as with David buried in work, I´ll start making the winder beginning of May.

    Andrew

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    Does anyone have any interest in coming up with a "kit" of sorts for a DIY CNC Winder? Instructions, parts list, etc?

    Or is this already in the works and I've missed it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Turner View Post
    Does anyone have any interest in coming up with a "kit" of sorts for a DIY CNC Winder? Instructions, parts list, etc?

    Or is this already in the works and I've missed it?

    There is no kit, or even a set list of parts, but there is a lot of info in this thread, including parts used by the few forum members that started building one.

    I'm only at the stage where I have my motors and controllers and a few other parts, but haven't assembled anything yet.


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    Chris,
    I think that's a reasonable request but we are all struggling with budget restraints so that the generic parts of the system are being acquired piecemeal as our individual finances permit and as the various parts appear on ebay etc. Paying 1/3 or less the full price is just too attractive even while the risk of getting parts that are unsuitable or defunct exists.

    Again, besides the Elepro controller, you will need 2 small stepper motors either nema 17 or nema 23 size and about 100 n/m torque with between 1.5 and 3V/phase. You will need a 18-28 VAC power transformer with at least 96VA capacity, a bridge rectifier, some power filter caps (OR a switching power supply in the 32-40VDC range with 2-4A output).
    You'll need two stepper motor drivers in the 2-4A range that can handle 32-40VDC supply.
    The mechanical parts are all up to you and the design you select upon. As more of us get our prototypes up and running I'm sure the designs will start to coalesce around the most practical approaches with the fewest number of parts.

    Overall budget seems to be about $400 though you can easily double that if you choose all new, off-the-shelf drivers, steppers and power supply with new linear bearings and ballscrew for the traverse.
    Last edited by David King; 04-21-2010 at 07:14 PM. Reason: Added some stuff..

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    Oh yeah... the power supply! I forgot that part.
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    Hey David,
    I just came across these anti-backlash acme nuts for 3/8 x 10tpi. They seem very reasonable too.
    dumpsterCNC - acme components

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    There is no kit, or even a set list of parts, but there is a lot of info in this thread, including parts used by the few forum members that started building one.

    I'm only at the stage where I have my motors and controllers and a few other parts, but haven't assembled anything yet.


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    Well, if anyone gets one going, putting together a parts list and maybe some basic assembly instructions would be great for us that are less electronically-inclined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Turner View Post
    Well, if anyone gets one going, putting together a parts list and maybe some basic assembly instructions would be great for us that are less electronically-inclined.
    The electronics part is an assembled unit. The rest of the winder is a matter of getting the stepper motors and controllers and building the thing.

    This "group buy" is for a assembled and tested CNC controller unit, or the brain of the winder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    The electronics part is an assembled unit. The rest of the winder is a matter of getting the stepper motors and controllers and building the thing.

    This "group buy" is for a assembled and tested CNC controller unit, or the brain of the winder.
    Yeah, I meant the actually assembly of a complete winder.

    Quote Originally Posted by David King View Post
    Chris,
    I think that's a reasonable request but we are all struggling with budget restraints so that the generic parts of the system are being acquired piecemeal as our individual finances permit and as the various parts appear on ebay etc. Paying 1/3 or less the full price is just too attractive even while the risk of getting parts that are unsuitable or defunct exists.

    Again, besides the Elepro controller, you will need 2 small stepper motors either nema 17 or nema 23 size and about 100 n/m torque with between 1.5 and 3V/phase. You will need a 18-28 VAC power transformer with at least 96VA capacity, a bridge rectifier, some power filter caps (OR a switching power supply in the 32-40VDC range with 2-4A output).
    You'll need two stepper motor drivers in the 2-4A range that can handle 32-40VDC supply.
    The mechanical parts are all up to you and the design you select upon. As more of us get our prototypes up and running I'm sure the designs will start to coalesce around the most practical approaches with the fewest number of parts.

    Overall budget seems to be about $400 though you can easily double that if you choose all new, off-the-shelf drivers, steppers and power supply with new linear bearings and ballscrew for the traverse.
    I never saw this reply to my original post back in April. The threading system used on this forum is a little confusing, and leaves a lot to be desired (for me, at least).

    Thanks for the replies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Turner View Post
    ..... The threading system used on this forum is a little confusing, and leaves a lot to be desired (for me, at least).

    Thanks for the replies!
    if you mean the display mode, you can change it.... see above first post...

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