Results 1 to 32 of 32
Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By km6xz
  • 1 Post By J M Fahey

Thread: Music and equipment from the other side of the world.

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333

    Music and equipment from the other side of the world.

    tonequester here.

    km6xz, and anybody else that want's to reply. Greetings. km6xz, you mentioned in one of your last posts that I had read, that you, like me, had gotten tired of sitting in the "listening chair" and experiencing music at specially determined settings on your favored equipment. You mentioned that you would much rather take
    in a good bar band in a live setting. I've come full circle. As a 17 year old, I started out enjoying "my music" on the run, through the "wonder of the age", the 8-track player
    and newly released co-axial speakers in my old '69 Mustang. By 18 years of age I had evolved into a hard core concert attendee. At the time(mid-'70's), the big coliseum, all day and half of the night, multipole attraction Super Jams were all the rage. Within two years, I was married and starting a family, so a Harmon-Kardon system powering
    BIG Fischer 3-ways was the ticket. Now that I have a mind to once again enjoy "live" music, I find that even in Kansas City, which has always had a deep Blues/Jazz heritage,
    has very little to offer anymore. Even radio is disappointing, unless you are into rap, hip-hop,so-called "New Country"(it all sounds the same), or things being foisted off as music that aren't musical. It got me to thinking about what you had said of St. Petersburg, and how the kid's there were into "micro-processors and programming on the machine level. That led me to wonder about the music scene over there. What do the kid's listen too ? If you have found live music that you enjoy, that's regularly accessible,
    what kind of music is still being played live there ? I don't figure you to be into rap, or "New Country" either. I have always considered myself to be pretty well rounded in my musical tastes. Although I have to admit to being a big Blues/Blues Rock fan, I also enjoy Classical music, as well as Classic country, older styles of Jazz, early Rock 'n Roll,
    and lots,if not all pop. I love anything which exhibits good harmony, and being an approximation of a guitar player, always go for real talent on that instrument(Segovia to Clapton). I'm also interested to know what kind of equipment "live" acts are using over there. It would seem a given that tubes are a big part of many groups sound, being that most, if not all tubes are made in "your neck of the woods". Anyway, if you get time. I'd sure be interested to know your opinions considring music and the "state of the art" in equipment....St. Petersburg style. Tonequester.


    Quote : "I use lot's of quotation marks when i write or type. It's not that I wish to be quoted, God forbid ! It's just my way of qualifying my ignorance of so amny things".
    Larry Boydston(alias....tonequester.)

  2. #2
    Senior Member km6xz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    St Petersburg Russia
    Posts
    858
    Hi Larry
    Music is part of the cultural identity of almost every society I have experienced or studied. One of my avid hobbies for decades was cultural anthropology so visiting other countries was not just sight seeing or vacation on the beach but getting to know about the culture, the customers, common cultural knowledge that everyone accepts, music, art and family structure.
    When I first started visiting Russia in 1976, it was part of the Soviet Union and its largest member and music had a long tradition. The dominate forms were European style classical, folk music, popular standards and bard music. About that time, in one region, and city St Petersburg the young were captivated by music they heard on their short wave radios or from smuggled-in British rock records. Most musicians were formally trained in music theory and classics as a basis for their branching out into other genres including jazz and standard pop music. But the kids in St Petersburg were rejecting much of that(although not that much, they were still integrated into the system of education and societal norms) and started experimenting with their own version of rock. Some of it was junk but a lot had strong craftsmanship in songwriting and arrangements despite no commercial outlet for their work. A "concert" might have been a few close friends invited over to listen in the livingroom. They found a way to record(tape recorders were registered items and no kid would have access to one) by fitting a phonograph with a needle driven by a small speaker mechanically that scratched the rotating surface of a trimmed down X-ray film. These became trading material between others who were interested in new forms of music but were not invited to the private concerts. Concerts were also help out in the woods or in countryside recreational areas. There is an interesting but too long to report here, story of my direct involvement in the early development in this rock music and how the government handled it. Maybe another time.
    By the early 80s there was open popularity for this locally grown version of rock that was mostly either crude basic rock or rock with a great variety of instruments and a mix of elements of jazz, Latin style rhythms and popular style harmony. The playing level was pretty consistently high level due to the formal music training that was so common. As the country opened up a lot more with trade and exchange with the west, the new St Petersburg music also found avid fans all over the country and became a commercial activity. A few of the original founders of that scene in St Petersburg made the transition from underground artists to national stars. Suddenly there was a flood of local and international music available and the fans absorbed it all. I am still amazed how much music knowledge there is here. Any young person I know can recite the words so some of the most arcane groups or songs from the US, UK or Europe or know the band members of groups that disbanded a decade or two before they were born. It is curious however what is missing, some groups that were very big in the US are completely unknown. Groups like Journey that owned radio during the 70s and early 80s are unknown. The Grateful Dead, a band which ought to be very popular here, is unknown, but all details of the music and lives of those bands lesser known contemporaries ARE known.
    There is a blurring of the genres, for example a classical composer, Italian opera, the Beatles and Chet Atkins, Piazzolla Tango music and and Elmore James early electric blues might be mixed into the same listener's iPod song list. In this regard, of breadth and width of music tastes, the music scene here is lot more intense than in the US where it has gradually gotten very narrowly cast. A popular form of music called Moscow Pop, that sells concert tickets, fills radio play lists and on TV is a form of entertaining, pop music known more for glamour and glitzy staging and celebrity than for musical importance. Sort of glam versions of Bubblegum pop music from the 60-70s in the US. The shows are high on showmanship and star power and weak on musical interest. But very popular everywhere except St Petersburg which thinks it is pretty devoid of content. The stars are certainly attractive, the women are usually actors or models before being tapped into the role of pop diva. One group of 3 hot babes, is called Via Agra was sort of a standout, because they acknowledged in interviews that they were not good but entertaining. Well actually they were good, their producer was very good at turning minor pop songs in very well crafted arrangements and productions, as slick as anything done in the US. They far out glamor'ed the Spice Girls, with more intelligence, beauty and style. They gave great interviews and each became a star in her own right. A red head in the group(which changed cast members occasionally but always a red head, blonde and brunette) was probably the most attractive feminine female stage personality I have encountered, even in person without stage makeup when I met her.
    Jazz is big here and currently the area of the most new exploration. Classical music is where the stars are however, more people know the name of the music director of the Mariinsky Theater than know the stars of the beloved local football team. There are more classical music venues than rock venues.
    So a long answer to a reasonably short question....
    Austin likes this.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.

    Greetings km6xz !

    I appreciate the window you've given me into the St.Petersburg(and surrounding area) music scene. I';m quite stunned to find that the type of music list that I would compile of my favorites, is very close to what a young person "over there" might have on his/her iPod index. I made friends with a 17 year old who approached me at my local YMCA wanting some advice about using a weight machine that I was using, I told him what I could and he offered to help me with my swimming(he had seen me flailing about in the pool).
    He turned out to be a competitive butterfly man, headed for National competition. We began to talk of many things, one being music. He was eager for me to "like" his favorite kind of music.
    On his iPod was a hugh amount of rap, which I expected. however, rap was not his favorite. He was compiling as much of what he told me, was really cutting into rap's popularity with his crowd, as he could. It is called "Dub Step". It originated in Dublin. It is pure synthesizer, updated of course(technology), or computer music. There is no discernable melody. There is a
    greatly exaggerated beat that is provided v.i.a. sub-woofer. I felt that I had to listen to several of the "tunes" ?! I could see this stuff driving some people into a frenzy, but luckily most of those people are already under lock and key. I "made" him listen to an equal number of songs of my chopice, thinking to enlighten him. I tried the Beatles, the Beach Boys, Cream,Jimi Hendrix, the Stray Cats,Frankie Valli/4-seasons, and Stevie Ray Vaughn, before I realized that he had absolutely no point of reference with which to judge real music with. I had asked him if he ever had heard of the Beatles, and he said that he hadn't. I had always taken him as an honest, intelligent kid. I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Even almost 50 years after they hit the charts, I am amazed that any American kid doesn't know about the Beatles. It actually sounds like I could identify with the youth of St. Petersburg, where for the most part it's impossible in my own country. I am glad to know that music is progressing where you live. The state of music over hear is so disheartening, that it makes someone of my age feel on the
    brink of extinction, when I know deep down that I know the difference between the beauty of real music, compared to what often amounts to a square-wave super-imposed over a saw-tooth wave(add sub-bass to attract whales). It's a puzzle how some obscure groups and songs are so well known ovet there, when as you say, the Grateful Dead is unknown. One thing for sure is that there are dynamics at work on both sides of the Atlantic that I don't understand. I do think that new technology has become a 2-edged sword, and nowhere else as much as the U.S. Well, my friend. I thank you for your time, and a different perspective on life in your "neck of the woods". I can never hope to get that from what they still refer to as "the News" over here. Perhaps the next great thing in music will come from St. Petersburg. We can only hope for the best. km6xz, tonequester signing off with the best of requards.

  4. #4
    Old Timer
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    Posts
    4,467
    Got curious, and googled "Via Gra" music.

    I expected to see 3 babushkas wearing white handkerchiefs in their heads and playing accordion while standing in a 3 block queue to receive their Government issued potato.
    Boy, was I wrong !!!

    Juan Manuel Fahey

  5. #5
    Supporting Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    So. California
    Posts
    875
    Wow!!

  6. #6
    ToneOholic! big_teee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    U.S.A.
    Posts
    4,427
    Yeah Buddy!
    Keep Rockin!
    Terry

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.

    Hey JM. Sheeeee ! km6xz wasn't feeding me any b.s. on this account of the state of music in St.Petersburg. I had never thought much of visiting Russia before, but now
    it seems there are at least three good reasons ! Thanks for the video. Nice way to end the day. tonequester .

  8. #8
    Old Timer
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    Posts
    4,467
    That's nothing.
    Please ask km6xz to post a link here for his *personal* girlfriends pictures, the ones he dates and dances with all night long in those cool Russian Clubs.
    Steve Conner likes this.
    Juan Manuel Fahey

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.


    Hey JM ! I can try, but I get the feeling that he's not so much into bar room "socializing", as he's into enjoying the music and it's related effects on the St. Petersburg culture. He's an interesting guy, who seems to have a place in electronics history. I'd like to know more, but I have the feeling that he is a pretty private guy as well. I do try to respect a man's convictions, and not be TOO politically incorrect. Time will tell, at least thats what "they" are always telling me. Hey ! How about those Argentine Beauties ?

    tonequester.

  10. #10
    Senior Member km6xz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    St Petersburg Russia
    Posts
    858
    The posted above is video is a later older incarnation of the group with different members:
    Here is one of a live concert featuring the original member I mentioned as being so attractive, the long wavy red head is the one I met and she is even more stunning in person. She can actually sing, trained in opera. The blonde is a pop singer who had a very popular hit that crossed over into rock and dance. I've met her also.

    or....next post....
    Last edited by km6xz; 07-11-2012 at 07:13 AM.

  11. #11
    Senior Member km6xz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    St Petersburg Russia
    Posts
    858
    Another one....only one video is allowed per post it seems...

    or...

  12. #12
    Senior Member km6xz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    St Petersburg Russia
    Posts
    858
    Or another from several years ago...


    Also,
    As for my own friends, here is an older photo album that has not been updated for a while:
    Nikonians Photo Galleries - Friends
    I have kept putting them off in posting their newer photos so I have to get on to that since they want copies.
    NOW you can see why I like this place!!
    I recently upgraded my camera and an additional lens to a Nikon D800, the highest resolution pro full frame camera in the world but I have not had time to gather some friends together for a party but next week I should since I promised them that we would have a party to celebrate my birthday...last month when I was too busy, and incorporating a new business officially yesterday. Some of these friends will be working for the business as a shore excursion provider for cruise ship passengers arriving in St Petersburg. I am already doing that but as a minority partner of a larger firm. The is new one is all mine done my way which means "different" than anything here currently.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequestr here.



    Hi km6xz !

    The videos were superb ! It's unfortunate that they could never make it in the U.S.(too much talent). However, I also find that their obvious physical attributes
    seems to cause me some auditory problems.I believe that it's due to an overload of the optic systerm. An obvious problem with multi-tasking ! The album is what I'd call a "keeper".
    If these lady's are your friends, then you are in good company whether they provide any intellectual stimulus or not ! You may find that the new camera has a problem. Situations like
    this sometimes cause an unusual phenomenon called "fog-out" around here. Some actually feel that it is due to the rise in core temperature of the operator, reacting with the humidity of the environment at the "shoot". I personally feel that it may be due to magnetism(animal). In any case it can't hurt to TRY to keep cool. You.ll have to excuse me. I just remebered that I need to call my travel agent. How are the hotels in St. Petersburg anyway ! I'd say "keep on keepin' on", but it appears that you are not having a problem there.
    Let's say "Happy Hunting"! tonequester "out of my mind"!

  14. #14
    Senior Member km6xz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    St Petersburg Russia
    Posts
    858
    Hi Toneqester, I get asked everyday by people I met for the first time "why are you here when you could be in warm California". They do not believe me when I reply that I get bored in California. Which is true. When I moved here, I liked the challenge of daily life, figuring out how to do things taken for granted and thinking about why somethings are done at all. But in that time both countries have grown in different direction and I find it nice to be around optimistic people who have better things to talk about than absurd politics, the woeful state of 99% of the population's financial security and celebrities. I really do get bored when in the US, not out in the unpopulated regions but around people. I don't fit in there any more. I don't think it is me that has changed so much because I do fit in just about everywhere else just the same as 25 years ago.
    The US was not such a depressing place during much of my life, but it certainly is now. The vast majority's only hope is to slow the downward spiral of quality of life or dream of somehow becoming very wealthy overnight. Stress wears down any organism when it is constant, but cause of growth when it is intermittent. I find that stress is the constant element in the atmosphere that is grinding away remaining bit of energy and spirit left. I say often that the isolationism of the US is a major factor in there being no enthusiasm for fixing problems at person, community and national levels because people see no alternative. If more people traveled and got to know other cultures they would see a great array of novel solutions to problems have been devised and how, except in some war zones, the none of the rest of the world lives with such levels of depression and stress.
    Next week I will have more photos, there is going to be a small party where so far only two guys will be, but the invited members are a dozen or so girls. It was not planned that way, it was not planned at all, just idle chatter. I met two more last night, students from Croatia, one in medical school and the other one in film school in St Petersburg.
    We started out having a few flaming cocktails, B-52's and went from one place to another after meeting by chance in my friend's Irish pub and ended up in a small DJ bar at 4am and asked the DJ to play some classic rock to dance to. I got home at 7am after we strolled along the canals for a couple hours. It is really beautiful that time of morning, my favorite. Lovely, fun loving and smart young ladies enjoying life are always a pleasure to be around. That probably sums up why I get bored it he US, that chance encounter that is an almost daily event here would be impossible in the US. It just would not happen. I am 63, they were 23 and 24 respectively, and there would be no common ground or even interaction in the US based on age.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.


    Hi km6xz ! My friend, you seem to have found what the U.S should be, half -way around the globe. I truly envy you. it's obvious that you did not make your decision to leave America without deep thought. I can't even imagine 25 year old women wanting to know anything about me, unless perhaps how much money I had. People over here don't seem to reach an adult level of maturity oR responsibility Until they are well into their 30's. Kids complain that there are no jobs.....but kids din't know the meaning of WORK. I am sure that you "came up" the same way that I did. Although you were a professional, and I was a tradesman, it was all the same in fact. In our day, you KNEW that you had to show on time, give a ful
    days work, and you didn't even think on leaving early. I have a nephew that recently got his first job. It happened to be working with my youngest brother, so I know what happened. The
    kid asked for time off first chance he had. When he did he was already behind the eight ball because he has to be told every move to make. My brother finally took it upon himself to tell
    him to grab a broom. if he couldn't figure out what to do. The job is simply loading customer's trucks with farm supplies. Grab it, pick it up, and place in truck. He's too busy Texting.
    I'm glad to here that the "American Dream" is alive somewhere on this planet, and that people can communicate sociably despite living a different situation, be it age or anything else that seems to rat-hole folks in the U.S. I had a" 30 something" call me old man, in Burger King not to long ago. Even when I was a teenager and being somewhat the rebel, not only would I never had the bad manners to call anyone old man, But I didn't consider 54 old anyway. The
    situation here makes me think of a bad movie(Soylent Green/Charleton Heston). I had to stop going to bars where there was live music, because the violence on the streets in K.C. town is getting terrible, especially in the areas where the music was most prolific. At least there seems to be a re-newal happening out in the suburbs with more clubs/bars offering cover bands.
    You sure are right about not being able to carry on a conversation with a young lady in the U.S., It's getting so bad that you don't dare try. I used to think that anybody who would even consider leaving the U.S. must be crazy. Now I'm beginning to ask myself.....am I crazy to stay ?
    km6xz....enjoy your life ! I think that you realize that you made the right choice for the right reasons, and at the right time.
    Don't forget us who are being swept by the wayside, by those that aren't content until they have it all. I'm thankful that I have a friend to keep me abreast of the good things that are going on outside the "Greed Curtain". Have a fine day ! tonequester.

  16. #16
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4
    I want to share with you the work of my group. Its also from other side of the world what do u think?

  17. #17
    Old Timer
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    Posts
    4,467
    Funny you chose that particular video as your introduction here, it's the one we can relate less to, being basically a bunch of "mature" (he he) Rock/Blues oriented guys.
    To my ears at least, it sounds cold and mechanical, plus looking like what a fan or a friend could have filmed at a weekend dance party.
    Of course, went to YT to keep sampling your job.
    *Much* preferred "Substrata.mpg": much richer music, it incorporates "real" instruments and real people playing them, the settings and people are more interesting, etc.

    continues>>
    Juan Manuel Fahey

  18. #18
    Old Timer
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    Posts
    4,467
    Finally I was stunned by the gorgeous images of "Melancholy".
    A compact masterpiece.
    Manages to tell a full (and moving) story in 4 and a half minutes.
    The music is simpler but smooth and perfect to accompany the visual mood.
    Any more, and I would have turned the sound off, so it does not distract me from the story I see on the screen.

    Hope it helps
    Juan Manuel Fahey

  19. #19
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4

    Thanx

    Quote Originally Posted by J M Fahey View Post
    Finally I was stunned by the gorgeous images of "Melancholy".
    A compact masterpiece.
    Manages to tell a full (and moving) story in 4 and a half minutes.
    The music is simpler but smooth and perfect to accompany the visual mood.
    Any more, and I would have turned the sound off, so it does not distract me from the story I see on the screen.

    Hope it helps
    Thank you for your comments! City noise characterizes our music in present days. We love to experiment, so now our heart is wholly given to the electronic genre! In any case it does not mean that past works are forgotten!

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    icstonequester here.


    Greetings from the state of Kansas, U.S. I am an old guy,54. I am not a very good choice to judge anybodies music, let alone the music of young people. However, I watched and listened to your video, so I thought that i'd give you my honest opinion, for what it's worth. I have not seen the earlier video that JM Fahey referred to in his reply. the video that I checked out made me think that it could be successful with the young people in the U.S. today. I undestand the electronically generated sound(by "computer"), as during my teens
    there was a first wave of "synthesized" music being experimented with. Tech was not quite up to the task at hand, but it showed possibilities. The major problem for me with much of todays music, is a monotony of sound. Melodies and harmonies seem almost non-existant, and dissonance is more common than consonance. As I said, the young crowd seems to be quite used to this, and likes it to boot. I agree with Jm that keeping at least some real instruments, played by real musicians, in combination with your electronic wizardry would be more appealing to a larger fan base. after all, the "old stuff" IS forgotten if never played. I have introduced young people to music that is 20 years or more older than I am, but I always put my own "spin" on it.
    I'm not talking about singing the same old tunes ad infinitum. It's more like incorporating styles and genres that have been greatly successful in the past, into the completely new form you
    are working on perfecting. In truth, there hasn't been an absolutely new music, free from past influence for MANY years. The ones that stray too far from things that have ALWAYS worked,
    like a catchy intro, a catchy melody, a driving beat, or straying too far from basic music theory(like properly resolving a chord) never last for long. An example is Punk. It self-destructed in a few years, and not just do to drug use by it's "best' musicians. It strayed too far from the norm. It was too violent. It made people want to fight instead of dance.

  21. #21
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.


    Greetings Natasha list.

    I just listened to your Hide Out. I believe that this one outshined the last in several areas. It began with a very much Classical feel to me. As the song progressed, I found elements of jazz, and was quite surprisewd to here what very much reminded me of Disco, from the mid-80's. Mush less monotonal. I have a young friend who is really "into" Dub-Step. he would like this very much, and I will try to steer him to your group and it's work. It is obvious that you take your music seriously, and you should. It shows potential, at least for the American market. There is much more creativity in your music than "crap"......,I mean rap. If I could make one suggestion, it would be to increase the vocals level
    a little bit. If you want to tap the over 25 crowd, it is at about that age that our high-frequency hearing begins to fade. This makes vocals hard to pick out from any ambient "noise". They
    can get lost in the mix, so to speak. At concerts in my youth, I was always close enough nto the stage to shake hands with the players. By the time I hit thirty, I was settled in mid-way back. Now, at 54, I have to "hug" the stage once more in order to pick out vocals, and i don't hardly ever hear cymbals anymore. Anyway, great work ! Wishing you the best !
    tonequester.

  23. #23
    rjb
    rjb is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Somewhere near Bawlmer, Merlin
    Posts
    645
    Quote Originally Posted by tonequester View Post
    At concerts in my youth, I was always close enough nto the stage to shake hands with the players.... and i don't hardly ever hear cymbals anymore.
    If only they had these back then.
    Nah, probably wouldn't have used 'em anyway.
    Etymotic Research, Inc. - Musicians Earplugs High-Fidelity Hearing Protection
    Last edited by rjb; 07-25-2012 at 05:59 AM.

  24. #24
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4
    I really appreciate your opinion and feedback. I agree about the vocals. Well... We will continue to work

  25. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.


    Greetings rjb. Thanks for the thread on the hearing protection for musicians. I had heard that there was new techology in this field that works well. As a printer I had to use the old foam type plugs, and they were a pain to work with. they did agood enough job on stopping the press noise which was about 96db, but you couldn't communicate with your helper and were constantly having to take them out to communicate. They were worthless for music. If you put them in right they made it so that all you could hear was your heartbeat.
    I checked the prices and they are very reasonable. You are right on target about whether you woulkd nhave worn them had they been around when we were young concert goers. I know that I would have thought them "uncool", and never give them a try. In our defence, back in those days very few if any knew about the high-frequency loss caused by high volume anyway.
    It's funny how high-frequency loss causes it to be so hard to make out speech with any ambient noise present. I still have occasion to play pretty loud, and if these things work as well as they say, it would be a good idea to give them a try. I'd hate the thought that my hearing would get any worse than it is now. They seem to have a 2 size fits all type, and ones that require ear moulds be made for fit. I believe that I might give the 2 size fits all type a try first. Those are only $12.95, and should give a person an idea about how useful they would be.
    Thanks for the tip. I'd have never thought to Google for these until it was probably too late to help. Even in church, I have to set closer to the pulpit than I care to, not that I shouldn't be sitting front row anyway ! This is one reason that I never "blow" off a single post. You just never know what you might learn. Have a great day rjb ! tonequester.

  26. #26
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    Greetings Natasha list.

    Tonequester here. I look forward to hearing more of your work in the near future. The fact that you ask opinions from even "the aged" on this forum, shows how deeply committed you are to your art, and it is art. The generation gap is always overly wide when music is the topic. In my day I was intent that there was no other music worth listening to besides what my friends thought good. Only when I was finally free from the "clique", did I begin to realize just how much I was missing out there. Music will always evolve and progress
    with people like you leading the way. Keep up the good work, and keep us informed ! Best Wishes, tonequester.

  27. #27
    rjb
    rjb is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Somewhere near Bawlmer, Merlin
    Posts
    645
    Quote Originally Posted by tonequester View Post
    You are right on target about whether you woulkd nhave worn them had they been around when we were young concert goers. I know that I would have thought them "uncool", and never give them a try.
    I found out about them from a young musician. He wears them on stage. Not all kids are as dumb as we used to be.

  28. #28
    Capacitater Steve Conner's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Posts
    6,778
    I use Doc's Pro Plugs, they are intended for keeping water out of surfers' ears, but do a good job of attenuating sound too.
    "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

  29. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.

    Good day rjb. You know, In our defense, kids of today are more likely to use ear protection, at least in part because of "old timers" like Pete Townsend who has been very public about his hearing loss. I saw him on the news talking about it, and I still know plenty of young people who "crank it up" wearing headphones and ear buds that "blow away' anything we had in our day. The car audio of today is another thing. I remember when I listened to 8-track tapes through a Bowman deck that had a blg 5 Warr amp built into it. Everybody thought
    I would surely blow out those brand new co-axials I had. i had probably $50.00 in the whole thing. My son started out with an Alpine rig, sub-woofer, a complete Bose combination of
    sattelite speakers, all run through a Pyle amp under the driver's seat that was rated at 500 watts, I beleive. I know because it was a birthday present from me. i let him pich out what he wanted, and I cried all the way home. I never would have thought the day would come when everytime I climbed into a persons car, I would immediately turn "the damned thing down".
    I've turned into my dad......."turn that sh-- DOWN NOW !!! Hey ! Even though we made tons of mistakes... I wouldn't give those memories away for anything. There wil never again be the bands and the "wild" concerts that we took in, in our day. have a great day. tonequester.

  30. #30
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.

    Greetings Steve. Thanks for the tip on Doc's Pro Plug. I'll check them out as well. Do you find that when you play you need to "turn up" ? Have a great day.
    tonequester.
    Last edited by tonequester; 07-26-2012 at 06:47 PM. Reason: typos

  31. #31
    Supporting Member tubeswell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wellington NZ
    Posts
    3,774
    Blog Entries
    1
    Speaking of Russian bands, I quite like these guys:

    Messer Chups - Vincent Price Bible - - YouTube

    The bass player's a real hot chicky babe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC4uz...eature=related
    Last edited by tubeswell; 08-07-2012 at 01:26 AM.
    Building a better world (one tube amp at a time)

  32. #32
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Spring Hill,KS.66083
    Posts
    333
    tonequester here.


    Greetings tubeswell. I have to agree with you about your observation about the bass player. It's a good thing that she has her "look". As a bass player she sure wasn't showing much. I couldn't help that both videos were of the slightly macabe type. I always did like Vincent Price. The whole "vibe" made me think of the Munsters. It's clear that you keep a young attitude and your mind open. Here's a quote from Vincent Price that I would bet you agree with : "A man who limits his interests, limits his life". I like the "Building a better world (one tube amp at a time). Keep the "chickie babes" on their toes around Wellington ! tonequester.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. What in the world could these things be??
    By DoctorX in forum Pickup Makers
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 06-16-2011, 09:30 PM
  2. Noob looking for side-by-side-Strat size bobbins
    By Ferd Burple in forum Pickup Makers
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 04-16-2011, 06:59 AM
  3. Music Man 2275-130 redplating one side
    By Prairie Dawg in forum Maintenance, Troubleshooting & Repair
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 01-26-2011, 04:26 PM
  4. Where can I get side-by-side bobbins for a strat?
    By TheGrateOz in forum Pickup Makers
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-20-2010, 03:50 AM
  5. What equipment do you need?
    By King Norre in forum Kit Amps
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-19-2009, 09:31 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •