Wide range buckers

mick · 06-07-2007, 07:03 PM

Anyone know of anybody who does a copy of the fender wide range bucker??

Thanks

Mick

NightWinder · 06-07-2007, 07:24 PM

W.B are essentially double slugs, unless your talking about the older ones, with rod magnets instead of Iron Slugs.

Possum · 06-09-2007, 05:04 AM

Seth designed that pickup, some like 'em some think they were his worst work, I never liked them much. The pole pieces were cunife which is a magnetic material that can be machined into screw poles. No one makes an authentic copy....

Zhangliqun · 06-13-2007, 06:38 PM

The Fender reissues are adjustable screws that look like the old cunife screws but aren't magnets. They use a regular humbucker bar magnet. The cover is also extremely thick, like they were trying to protect it from anti-tank rounds, and totally kills what tone is left.

The one I rewound for a guy measured 12k with 43 wire, which is roughly the equilvalent of 9k/42, which is still too hot and muddy for a neck pu, even without that cover.

I've never tried an original Wide Range, but I bet the reissue would give the original a run for the money in the mud dept.

Possum · 06-14-2007, 02:45 AM

I don't think Fender EVER made an accurate "reissue" pickup in their entire history, what they make are "max profit" products and call them reissues.

Some people think the wide range buckers are worth alot because Seth Lover designed it, whooopee. The truth is Seth Lover was no genius really, more of a nuts and bolts guy. I had a Tele custom in the 70s with that pickup in the neck and it definitely did NOT rock at all. Very weak output, much too hi-fi sounding. I guess they can sound good through a small amp cranked up high but you sure can't do AC/DC stuff with them, they are what they are....

Peter Naglitsch · 06-14-2007, 06:45 AM

Well the Fender HBs were not designed to sound like a PAF. The idea was to maintain as much of the Fender character as possible but remain humbucking. Honestly: how much AC/DC can you pound out of any Fender? It doesn’t mater how good the Fender might be. You need a SG and a Marshal cranked up. Oh, and a brother with a Gretsch cranking his vox (I think) up high too

David Schwab · 06-14-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Naglitsch

Honestly: how much AC/DC can you pound out of any Fender? It doesn’t mater how good the Fender might be. You need a SC and a Marshal cranked up. Oh, and a brother with a Gretsch cranking his vox (I think) up high too

The Gretsch pickups are pretty clean too! Pete Townsend got some good power cords out of a Gretsch.

Keith Richards likes those Teles with the wide range buckers.

As far as rocking out on a Fender... Deep Purple anyone?

Peter Naglitsch · 06-14-2007, 04:21 PM

You got me there.

NightWinder · 06-14-2007, 04:55 PM

James Gang with Bolin too....

Peter Naglitsch · 06-14-2007, 05:56 PM

Hendrix, Trower, Nirvana etc etc, all really nice rockers, but we were talking AC/DC type of ball breaking (pun intended) Neanderthal rock.

But hey, Bolin with Purple... I'm sticking my neck out and saying that "Come taste..." is among the best Purple record ever (that can't really turn up a discussion can it?).

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this thread.

06-07-2007, 07:03 PM	#1
mick Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 320	Wide range buckers Anyone know of anybody who does a copy of the fender wide range bucker?? Thanks Mick

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Possum Old Timer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Planet Mongo in the country of PAF Posts: 3,134	Seth Lover.... Seth designed that pickup, some like 'em some think they were his worst work, I never liked them much. The pole pieces were cunife which is a magnetic material that can be machined into screw poles. No one makes an authentic copy.... __________________ http://www.SDpickups.com Stephens Design Pickups

06-14-2007, 02:45 AM	#5
Possum Old Timer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Planet Mongo in the country of PAF Posts: 3,134	etc. I don't think Fender EVER made an accurate "reissue" pickup in their entire history, what they make are "max profit" products and call them reissues. Some people think the wide range buckers are worth alot because Seth Lover designed it, whooopee. The truth is Seth Lover was no genius really, more of a nuts and bolts guy. I had a Tele custom in the 70s with that pickup in the neck and it definitely did NOT rock at all. Very weak output, much too hi-fi sounding. I guess they can sound good through a small amp cranked up high but you sure can't do AC/DC stuff with them, they are what they are.... __________________ http://www.SDpickups.com Stephens Design Pickups

06-14-2007, 06:45 AM	#6
Peter Naglitsch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Europe, Terra Nostra Posts: 327	Well the Fender HBs were not designed to sound like a PAF. The idea was to maintain as much of the Fender character as possible but remain humbucking. Honestly: how much AC/DC can you pound out of any Fender? It doesn’t mater how good the Fender might be. You need a SG and a Marshal cranked up. Oh, and a brother with a Gretsch cranking his vox (I think) up high too Last edited by Peter Naglitsch; 06-14-2007 at 05:57 PM.

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06-07-2007, 07:24 PM	#2
NightWinder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 1,070	W.B are essentially double slugs, unless your talking about the older ones, with rod magnets instead of Iron Slugs.

06-13-2007, 06:38 PM	#4
Zhangliqun Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 586	The Fender reissues are adjustable screws that look like the old cunife screws but aren't magnets. They use a regular humbucker bar magnet. The cover is also extremely thick, like they were trying to protect it from anti-tank rounds, and totally kills what tone is left. The one I rewound for a guy measured 12k with 43 wire, which is roughly the equilvalent of 9k/42, which is still too hot and muddy for a neck pu, even without that cover. I've never tried an original Wide Range, but I bet the reissue would give the original a run for the money in the mud dept.

06-14-2007, 04:21 PM	#8
Peter Naglitsch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Europe, Terra Nostra Posts: 327	You got me there.

06-14-2007, 04:55 PM	#9
NightWinder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 1,070	James Gang with Bolin too....

06-14-2007, 05:56 PM	#10
Peter Naglitsch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Europe, Terra Nostra Posts: 327	Hendrix, Trower, Nirvana etc etc, all really nice rockers, but we were talking AC/DC type of ball breaking (pun intended) Neanderthal rock. But hey, Bolin with Purple... I'm sticking my neck out and saying that "Come taste..." is among the best Purple record ever (that can't really turn up a discussion can it?). Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this thread.

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