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    Parts, & Parts Suppliers

    We need a thread here about Parts & Parts Suppliers!
    If you have any hot scoop on parts and parts Suppliers, please post it here!
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    Maybe I'm not seeing it ,but whats on clearance I only see some plastic covers & .250" strat flatwork
    clearance - mojotone.com
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    I've noticed they got bulk 50 pc strat sets added Mojotone Strat Flatwork Top and Bottom Set (for .187'' dia.) BULK
    which works out to be $1.72 a piece which jumped up in price a little
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    Hopefully they won't get carried away deleting items.
    It's the off norm stuff that is harder to find.
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    I grabbed some of the Champion Lap Steel flatwork that's on the way out.

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    Perhaps this thread would be of interest:
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    Quote Originally Posted by g-one View Post
    Perhaps this thread would be of interest:
    Mojotone Updates
    Yes, Thought we could further discuss it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    We need a thread up here about Mojo.
    I noticed all the stuff on clearance.
    Mojo is in the process of phasing out Some of the pickup part selection.
    Tell me again how the Wal-Mart Approach with less selection is going to Improve what we offer Our Customers.
    Time for more suppliers.
    Things were much better Last year.
    There was more selection and better service.
    Still looks like Mojo wants less Pickup competition with the Mojo Pickup line.
    That's my 2 Cents.
    Feel free to Discuss away!
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    Sam's choice pickups! LOL! Seriously, we aren't going to cut parts that people are buying. We are simply going to up the quantities on these parts and phase out the dead weight. I have added a ton of new parts this year that are selling very well for us. Far more than we are actually cutting or discontinuing. I hope this helps!

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    Just Don't forget the Little Guys!
    You have been making lots of changes this year.
    One thing I don't care for is the group packaging your doing.
    I used to buy rod magnets by the piece, now you have to buy 6 of each size.
    Same with Strat plastic knobs.
    I used to buy several different colors in difference sizes.
    I bought them in 3s, of each color, one volume, and 2 tone.
    Now you have to buy 2 volume knobs of each color.
    So if you buy 2 tone knobs, and 2 Vol. knobs, you have the Bastard Vol. knob leftover.
    Why do you need an extra volume knob, Also Everything seems to be going up in price.
    Tubes alone, went up about a third this year.
    Wages don't seem to be going up, but your prices sure are.
    Also if you would quit redesigning your web site every other week, maybe you could keep your prices lower.
    That is my Rant for the Day.
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    Lol Terry...you got me feeling like I need to rant!

    The internet has been great at finding parts for builders but since no place seems to be able to put together
    an outfit that offers a great selection with fair pricing one ends up losing a lot from shipping charges. That's been
    my experience anyway with 8+ guitar builds.

    I like Mojo but it's silly for me not to get the pup parts from......a place that also has a pretty good selection of all the
    materials for a build. Saving pennies if I can at Mojo when I loose dollars in shipping...can't work that way.

    So from my chair if they addressed what issues you've mentioned it wouldn't matter to me....and other places all have their weirdness too.
    I mean if were going to sell knobs I'd sell every knob you can imagine in any color they were made in. Why mess with them if you can't do it up right?

    And why none of the places that I'm aware of don't carry every pickup part that they can makes no sense. Why do anything
    half-assed? Maybe they can't do it "right"...I don't know but whatever the reasons it leaves this customer thinking they don't have their act together...and I
    don't like thinking that way- but they caused it, not me.

    Well good luck to them all because I've become to old to show them how or even really care....just felt like ending the work week with a rant...and I credit you Terry for that LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    Mojo is in the process of phasing out Some of the pickup part selection.
    Tell me again how the Wal-Mart Approach with less selection is going to Improve what we offer Our Customers.
    David told me that no one is buying those parts, so they are phasing them out. Well, not no one, since they are phasing out some of the parts I use, but it seems I'm the only one buying them! They have the original stock from when they ordered them a few years ago.

    So if we wanted them to keep those parts, we should have bought more of them.

    So they can order you anything you want, as long as you meet the minimum order requirements.

    But I agree, that it can't hurt keeping them in stock. But that's business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    David told me that no one is buying those parts, so they are phasing them out. Well, not no one, since they are phasing out some of the parts I use, but it seems I'm the only one buying them! They have the original stock from when they ordered them a few years ago.

    So if we wanted them to keep those parts, we should have bought more of them.

    So they can order you anything you want, as long as you meet the minimum order requirements.

    But I agree, that it can't hurt keeping them in stock. But that's business.
    Yes I thought of you when I saw all the bass covers on clearance.
    You don't need them until you need them.
    The minimum order thing doesn't do us small shops much good, when you only need one or two of something.
    We will make it though, we always do.
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    Having a supplier narrow their selection to those that sell well makes sense for them but it also makes an opportunity for anyone to specialize in harder to find, lower volume parts. The internet has that one advantage, highly specialized on-line stores can find a market of the few people spread all over the world who want those parts that are not fast in turn over for generalized shops.
    Although I much prefer locally owned physical stores, there is a place for niche on-line stores that need a wide ranging, international, customer base. Terry and David, this looks like an opportunity to pick up where the ball has been dropped and target the smaller even more narrowly defined niche. Finding the original sources and then creating a web store is not a difficult task nowadays. It would not make a ton of money but as a little addition to your current business, it could be worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by km6xz View Post
    Having a supplier narrow their selection to those that sell well makes sense for them but it also makes an opportunity for anyone to specialize in harder to find, lower volume parts. The internet has that one advantage, highly specialized on-line stores can find a market of the few people spread all over the world who want those parts that are not fast in turn over for generalized shops.
    Although I much prefer locally owned physical stores, there is a place for niche on-line stores that need a wide ranging, international, customer base. Terry and David, this looks like an opportunity to pick up where the ball has been dropped and target the smaller even more narrowly defined niche. Finding the original sources and then creating a web store is not a difficult task nowadays. It would not make a ton of money but as a little addition to your current business, it could be worth doing.
    Not looking for a real job here.
    I'm retired, I did Telecomm Work for 42 years.
    Pickup winding and beating on old amps is just a retirement hobby.
    Just want to be able to buy a few parts when I need them, or one of my guitar buddies needs something.
    Like you said, if there is an oppurtunity and a need, someone will fill it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    Yes I thought of you when I saw all the bass covers on clearance.
    You don't need them until you need them.
    The minimum order thing doesn't do us small shops much good, when you only need one or two of something.
    We will make it though, we always do.
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    I don't make anything I can't get parts for, so I have had to by in bulk in the past. I have a box of 400 pickup covers I got from Korea a few years back. Then I started getting other sizes from Mojo, a dozen or two at a time.

    So if I can't get parts, I won't bother with them, or if it's something I'm going to make on a regular basis, I'll just have to order a bunch.

    Luckily they are keeping a lot of the other hard to get parts.
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    Update on Mojo Parts.
    Per David Shepherd, mojo manager.
    Mojo is in process of getting some improved blades for their blade bobbins.
    For the Strat rail type bobbin, they are going to offer a plated blade with improved curve.
    The blade have a larger more gradual radius, in the 15-20 inch range.
    The plated blades will stop the rusting that plagues plain steel blades.
    I requested a Strat Blade Bobbin in vintage white.
    A vintage white bobbin would go with all light colored and tortoise pickguards.
    The Black bobbin IMO is a show stopper for Light colored pick guards.
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    The improved thicker PAF type Keeper project fell through do to price hikes.
    The Vintage white strat, and tele mini blade bobbins may happen by spring.
    Metal Strat Covers are being considered.
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    When I got interested in winding I was focused on building a winder and seeing if it was something I could handle.
    Later I found out that getting materials was an issue.

    I wind mostly single coils (as a hobby) and it's turned out that Tone-Kraft is what works for me. Not one complaint from me about them and I sure can't say that
    about other places I've tried to get parts from.

    I hope they continue to grow and if they do they'll probably become the goto vendor IMO.

    I haven't bought anything from them since they started engraving but looking forward to that.

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    Tone-Craft makes some nice looking stuff.
    Here's there web site if you want to try them.
    http://www.tone-kraft.com/
    I guess you can only buy them in sets. Looks like a Single Coils is all they sell.
    I deal with Mojo, they seem to have what I need, all at one stop shopping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    Tone-Craft makes some nice looking stuff.
    Here's there web site if you want to try them.
    http://www.tone-kraft.com/
    I guess you can only buy them in sets. Looks like a Single Coils is all they sell.
    I deal with Mojo, they seem to have what I need, all at one stop shopping.
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    Very nice stuff indeed.
    I noticed you edited out "expensive"....not only can I get 3 at TK for the price of 2 at Mojo they come in a nice box to ship them in. Love the flatwork color selection and the selection choices for specifics such as magnetized or not, etc.
    At Mojo- "Sorry no substitutions for different parts"
    At Tone-Kraft - "Choose Options".

    As I previously stated they are growing and hope they not only include HB parts but tube kits too. Time will tell.

    I'm not affiliated with them- just the best I've found for single-coil parts.
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    I'm not affiliated with Mojo or anyone either.
    Dealer discounts are available, that makes pickup parts more affordable!
    If you have a business website, you may qualify!
    Same with WDBIZ, and some other Parts Companies, like ADFX, and MagneticHold magnets.
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    If you wonder where all these unusual Humbucker covers and baseplates are coming from?
    Here is one source you may want to bookmark.
    Covers
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    Baseplates
    Philadelphia Luthier Tools & Supplies, LLC - Search Results for "baseplates"
    All kinds of neat wide range parts, filtertron, firebird, minibucker, center hole covers, matching baseplates, & etc.
    Also Metal Thunderbird bass covers, like Lollar and some use.
    Also, prices are not that bad, for hard to find parts.
    Check them out!
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    Too bad they don't offer dealer pricing. I've asked
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    Quote Originally Posted by copperheadroads View Post
    Too bad they don't offer dealer pricing. I've asked
    Sometimes for rare parts you have to pay the price.
    Just mark the pickup price up accordingly for hard to find parts.
    At least some of this hard to find stuff is getting more available.
    Maybe Some of the other suppliers will catch on!
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    I emailed Philadelphia Luthier a couple of times, one about Dealer discounts.
    Like Copper said, They have none and said they had low mark up as it is?
    I also asked if the Thunderbird bass covers could be made in a deeper cover model?
    Because the total cover height is only 15/32" tall.
    Which leaves too little room to build much of anything in the cover, like a sidewinder bass pickup.
    I asked if they could stock deep bobbins to fit the Filtertron covers, and about bobbins to fit the bigger Wide Range guitar pickup baseplates and covers?
    I got No's on all of it!
    So if you were wondering about any of those things, I have no solutions to any of it!
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    So where is the best place to buy the small eyelets used on pickups?
    I'm trying to come up with some alternatives instead of just purchasing from one place all the time.
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    Philadelphia Luthier Tools & Supplies Guitar building tools and parts - they dont offer pricees for retailers it is a pity.
    We provide sample packs for djs

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    What I have been doing is getting my rod magnets from Tone-Kraft for a great bulk price. $2.70 for a set of 6 rod magnets if you buy 5 sets or more. It's much better than the 6 bucks a set everyone else seems to want. I get my flat work from Addictionfx in sets of 24 for $36... that's 66 cents per set of flat work plus $2.70 for the magnets... a little over 3 bucks a completed bobbin... it blows stewmac out of the water. Tone-kraft is a seriously great company with great customer service. I ordered some rod magnets from them and said I wanted them pre charged north up because I did not have a way to charge them at the time... They arrived and weren't charged. Emailed them about it and immediately sent me a Stanley vice fixed with magnets to charge mine. They even shipped it next day so I got it a day later... I am not affiliated with them at all I am just an extremely satisfied customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebirdguy1972 View Post
    What I have been doing is getting my rod magnets from Tone-Kraft for a great bulk price. $2.70 for a set of 6 rod magnets if you buy 5 sets or more. It's much better than the 6 bucks a set everyone else seems to want. I get my flat work from Addictionfx in sets of 24 for $36... that's 66 cents per set of flat work plus $2.70 for the magnets... a little over 3 bucks a completed bobbin... it blows stewmac out of the water. Tone-kraft is a seriously great company with great customer service. I ordered some rod magnets from them and said I wanted them pre charged north up because I did not have a way to charge them at the time... They arrived and weren't charged. Emailed them about it and immediately sent me a Stanley vice fixed with magnets to charge mine. They even shipped it next day so I got it a day later... I am not affiliated with them at all I am just an extremely satisfied customer.
    I couldn't agree more about Tone-Kraft. I recently got different sets for Strat style that they had engraved. Fantastic. They didn't charge set-up either. All I had to do was let them know what I wanted.
    I got an email from them because I had the order holding in my cart. I replied I was holding it because I wasn't sure how to place the order requesting the engraving...they advised me to place the order and it would be done. It was done immediately and they didn't charge me for the engraving. I guess because they thought the ordering method may need improving...I don't know. But sure glad they're there and hoping they continue to grow.

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    That's great if all you are talking about in flatwork is Strat Pickups.
    There are many more types of pickups that use forbon flatwork that ADFX doesn't have.
    So ADFX is only an economical fix for Strats, nothing else, when it comes to Flatwork!
    On Tone Kraft, if you have to buy a 3 strat pickup set for $30 a whack, that don't seem to be any kind of a bargain either?
    The best I can tell the Tone Kraft stuff is already assembled, which is fine if the spacing between the flats they use, if the magnet length, and stagger they use suits you?
    Just Saying, We need more options!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    That's great if all you are talking about in flatwork is Strat Pickups.
    There are many more types of pickups that use forbon flatwork that ADFX doesn't have.
    So ADFX is only an economical fix for Strats, nothing else, when it comes to Flatwork!
    On Tone Kraft, if you have to buy a 3 strat pickup set for $30 a whack, that don't seem to be any kind of a bargain either?
    The best I can tell the Tone Kraft stuff is already assembled, which is fine if the spacing between the flats they use, if the magnet length, and stagger they use suits you?
    Just Saying, We need more options!

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    Optiions are great to have. From what I've seen in the short time I've been winding is there is nobody out there supplying winders with what they need and prices are scattered like my winding.

    Quality of the bobbins they assemble? Well I'm one to get some and decided for myself rather than take anothers word but I can say I've placed and received numerous orders from them and not one issue. I can't say that about the other places I've ordered from. YMMV.

    Bargain? To each their own when it comes to that. I can say I've purchased parts to make my bobbins and purchased bits and pieces all over the place and what I get for the sets at Tone-Kraft is more than a bargain.

    If I guess the price of the wire at about $2.50 per pup and figure each pup costs me around $12.50 ...well I'm good to go.

    Naturally some don't care about the "one stop shopping" , selection choices, shipping box, flatwork selection, selection of covers, wiring choices, engraving option, magnet options and all for about $10.00 a pup. To me, that is a great bargain.
    I don't know of any place where I can pick from the selection and options they have and get everything needed for that price. Do you?

    The time and hassle it saves me makes it a no-brainer to go there.
    Now if they'd start handling Humbucker kits I'd be in high cotton.

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    Tone Kraft sounds like good quality stuff.
    Yes, that is too expensive IMO.
    I don't make that many Strat Pickups, I mainly do other stuff.
    I also don't want any flatwork already assembled.
    That part of the process, what magnets you use, how you bevel, how you stagger, and bobbin height is what makes my Strat pickups unique and Custom.
    If you need assembled, then you're all set.
    Like I say, that's good, but we can always use more options.
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    I've also used tonekraft many times with excellent results. They have great service and William is very quick to answer emails and whatnot.
    THey will also be selling flatwork soon, along with adding other stuff as well.
    If I'm feeling lazy I get a premade bobbin by them, I think they are $25ish for a strat set. You can request any mix or stagger you want, or at least I have.

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    It's not "need assembled" Terry...it's they are assembled as they should be for my guitars and don't need to be customized. Besides, I couldn't engrave them and I really like that. Major plus to me. Like I said though...to each their own.

    For someone like myself being able to spend a couple of minutes making the selection for all the choices and placing ONE order for all I need (for a guitar I'm building) is so convenient that there really is no option. At least I don't know of one and since you didn't answer I'll assume you don't either.
    It is a hassle and waste of time rounding up all the bits and pieces from different vendors and paying shipping to each one so why would I do that? Well I did when I started winding and it was a real pisser to spend that time and money then to receive orders that had damaged parts, wrong parts or missing parts. I still have to deal with that when I need to wind humbucker types. Sure wish TK would eliminate that problem for me.

    As is; I spend a few minutes, spend a fraction of the cost for one pickup and get a three...just can't imagine it being better.

    There are also other pluses I didn't mention. I don't know how many times I've received covers that were scratched or screwed up...not one time with TK. Everything is in the box one could use for shipping. Protected and complete. That means a lot to somebody that doesn't keep a quantity of parts around.
    I order for the guitar I'm building and have no use for pieces on the shelf.
    That's why doing business with them is a "bargain" to me.
    I can see it not being right for somebody trying to make profit only with the pickups. When I think about it like that...man, I'm glad I have other things to do personally.

    Well it feels great when one finds that which works for them. Hope you have or do.

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    I'm retired, I've never made much profit, I don't do it for the money.
    I usually give more stuff away than I sell.
    Pre-assembled is not my deal.
    And Strat pickups is not much of what I do.
    What a lot of us need is some more flatwork makers, besides just a few fender models.
    That is what I was trying to emphasize before the Thread took the TK Detour.
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