Music Electronics Forum

Go Back   Music Electronics Forum > Amplification > Guitar Amps > Theory & Design

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-18-2007, 11:20 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: leighton buzzard, uk
Posts: 118
Impedance Converters / Autoformers

The amp I'm currently working on requires a 4 ohm load. However, I'd like to make it switchable between 8 ohm and 4 ohm.

Weber make this: https://taweber.powweb.com/store/wzc50.jpg

Although I'm not sure how you'd connect it..

(more info here - http://www.webervst.com/store/magnetic.htm )

Are there any alternative ways of doing this? This thing seems to do what I'd like but I don't know how much it'd cost to ship to the UK.
harry is offline   Reply With Quote
...and now, a word from our sponsor:
Old 07-18-2007, 11:57 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Tom Phillips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: California, USA
Posts: 676
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry View Post
The amp I'm currently working on requires a 4 ohm load. However, I'd like to make it switchable between 8 ohm and 4 ohm.
Weber make this: https://taweber.powweb.com/store/wzc50.jpg
Although I'm not sure how you'd connect it..
(more info here - http://www.webervst.com/store/magnetic.htm )
That is an “autotransformer”. With only one winding you hook the existing amp between common and its rated impedance tap then hook the speaker between common and its rated impedance. I’d assume that it would come with instructions. Maybe someone knows if it does.

In your case you would switch the Weber impedance converting transformer into the circuit to convert to 8 Ohm impedance and switch it completely out of the circuit when you work at the rated 4 Ohm load.

In theory the idea works fine. However, I don’t know how it will affect the sound and I am not a big fan of putting such a device between the amp’s OT and the speaker.

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry View Post
Are there any alternative ways of doing this? …
Yes
Alternative 1) Just hook the 8 Ohm load to the amp, play and determine if you like how it sounds. Most amps, in fact just about all amps, do just fine in this situation. Note that speakers are not exactly 4 or 8 or other impedance. In fact the impedance varies wildly with frequency. Also – there is lots of variation in the OT turns ratios used by various manufacturers such that the actual ideal load may be other than 4 anyway.

Alternative 2) Check inside and see if you have other secondary taps on the OT that are not hooked up. If so, you can add a switch to select the tap you want.

Alternative 3) Rather than buy an extra transformer to add in series, put your money toward a replacement OT that has multiple secondary taps. Then add the switch needed to select.

Cheers,
Tom
Tom Phillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2007, 10:43 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: leighton buzzard, uk
Posts: 118
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply. The OT does not seem to have any extra taps.
Using an 8-ohm load the output is lower, and I like to run this amp at 10 to get the volume I require - I'm a bit wary of running it at 10 to get sufficient volume with 8 ohms. I tried it once and it was still a bit quiet.

I think I will consider a new OT at some stage.
harry is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Diff. in input impedance? steel1953 Harp Amps 11 12-30-2008 01:39 PM
Primary impedance for 4x6L6? Hallingamp Theory & Design 25 05-09-2007 03:59 PM
Center tap impedance? studioit Theory & Design 4 03-20-2007 07:55 PM
Impedance Question noah_swanson Guitar Amps 4 01-04-2007 03:23 PM
Impedance selection Andy Guitar Amps 9 08-18-2006 04:57 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin   Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO