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    Quote Originally Posted by bob p View Post
    ^^ That isn't even remotely close to being a Hot News Story. It's a sketch-comedy parody.
    You want some real news? Here's some real news.
    Man arrested after Orlando cops mistook doughnut for meth gets $37,500 from Orlando
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    New GOP Tax Plan.
    It has not been scored by the CBO.
    I wonder what this plan will cost me?


    What's in the House tax bill for people - Nov. 2, 2017
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    I'm looking at the numbers and I don't see it "costing me anything." The tax changes have been sold as a tax cut for low, moderate and middle-income Americans. I fall into that wide demographic and I see tax rates for me going down.

    Yes, I lose exemptions but I gain a standard deduction that's higher than the exemptions + standard deduction that I had before. The calculations are simpler.

    I don't have a mortgage that's over $500,000 so I won't lose a mortgage deduction.

    I don't have enough income to worry about the deductibility of state and local taxes, as the standard deduction is higher than the old standard deduction that already covered that.

    What's there to complain about? Well, it looks like people who have large families may lose the number of exemptions that they have. I guess that's something to be angry about if you think society owes a tax break to breeders.

    I can't say that I'm enthusiastic about seeing other people losing the deduction for medical expenses. I've never utilized that deduction, as in the past, you had to have some pretty extreme medical expenses to itemize. I never had to do it. With the new proposal, even if you have catastrophic expenses they wouldn't be deductible. That's the only thing I see that bothers me. Some people who have catastrophic illnesses could really be hosed and not get a break on their taxes. I think medical expense deduction should be made easier (not be subject to the previous limit where your expenses had to exceed a percentage of your income), and not eliminated. But to agree with that you have to form the opinion that society owes a tax break to anyone who pays for their own medical care, when we as individuals -- rather than society -- are the primary beneficiaries of that expenditure. Some would say that it's only fair that the person who benefits most should be the one who pays for something that primarily benefits them and only them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob p View Post
    I'm looking at the numbers and I don't see it "costing me anything." The tax changes have been sold as a tax cut for low, moderate and middle-income Americans. I fall into that wide demographic and I see tax rates for me going down.
    If you benefit from the plans announced earlier this month more power to you. As for me I pay no income taxes because my only income is Social Security and the amount is under the threshold at which part of it is taxed. As long as these plans do not change that it will have no effect on me.

    Of much concern to me is how the people of our country are affected by his tax plan. IMO what drove our economy through the Great Recovery (basically the 25 years right after WWII) was a strong middle class with plenty of disposable income to pay for the goods and services provided by American businesses.

    Unlike most of the generations before us our children in general aren't going to be better off than ourselves... they aren't going to earn more than we have when adjusted for inflation and might never own their own homes. Since the Great Recession many of the good paying jobs have disappeared. Auto workers used to earn over $30/hr but since 2008 the starting wage has been around $16/hr perhaps going up to $19/hr after 5 years.

    Yes, I lose exemptions but I gain a standard deduction that's higher than the exemptions + standard deduction that I had before. The calculations are simpler.

    I don't have a mortgage that's over $500,000 so I won't lose a mortgage deduction...
    The $500k figure applies to *new* mortgages, existing mortgages keep their deduction thus not affecting the current mortgages of the millionaires and up.

    What's there to complain about? Well, it looks like people who have large families may lose the number of exemptions that they have. I guess that's something to be angry about if you think society owes a tax break to breeders.
    Breeders? How about couples who adopt children who would otherwise be placed in foster care at a greater expense to the local, state and federal governments. And why should there be a tax break for children born into a smaller family, especially if contraception and abortion is made illegal by the right wing religious fanatics?

    The system of deductions for dependents has been in place for many years and if we are looking for unfair tax dodges that is the last place I would look. I would start with those tax laws that give big corporations a big financial edge over the small businesses run by the middle class and not the wealthy.

    I can't say that I'm enthusiastic about seeing other people losing the deduction for medical expenses.* I've never utilized that deduction, as in the past, you had to have some pretty extreme medical expenses to itemize. I never had to do it.
    I have itemized my deductions since 1984 when I first became a homeowner. My medical expenses never exceeded the threshold until 2007 when I went on disability.

    With the new proposal, even if you have catastrophic expenses they wouldn't be deductible. That's the only thing I see that bothers me. Some people who have catastrophic illnesses could really be hosed and not get a break on their taxes.
    Which is why I oppose it — I look at how the plan would affect *everyone* including the unfortunate few who would be hit really hard. The song "There but for fortune go I" pretty much made me a compassionate liberal for life.

    ACA eliminated annual and lifetime benefit caps and instituted a cap on maximum out of pocket expenses for the individual and for the family. If the GOP repeals those protections in their attacks on ACA after eliminating deductions for medical expenses then a lot more people are going to take big financial hits..

    I think medical expense deduction should be made easier (not be subject to the previous limit where your expenses had to exceed a percentage of your income), and not eliminated.
    Agreed!

    But to agree with that you have to form the opinion that society owes a tax break to anyone who pays for their own medical care...
    Are you comparing people who pay for their health insurance on the individual market to those who have an employer-provided health plan? According to the most recent figures the tax breaks given through employer-provided health insurance add up to $266 billion in lost revenue annually.
    ... when we as individuals -- rather than society -- are the primary beneficiaries of that expenditure.
    The whole idea of insurance as started 800 years ago was to spread out the cost of unexpected events among a large number of people to keep it from being catastrophic for whoever was unlucky enough to draw the short straw.

    Some would say that it's only fair that the person who benefits most should be the one who pays for something that primarily benefits them and only them.
    I disagree with both the premise and conclusion drawn in that statement. Everybody pays for emergency room visits by people lacking medical insurance.

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    Besides my specific complaints about various components of the proposed tax plans I strongly object to how they have been introduced. I think that we all agree that our tax laws are in need of revision but traditionally the process would involve bipartisan studies in both chambers of Congress with input from experts in the field. But I guess Trump & Co. would object to that method as being part of The Swamp they have pledged to drain.

    As it is we have proposals drawn up in the traditional smoke-filled rooms which are the very antithesis of the open and transparent government which we all want. These proposals are based on political objectives, like introducing the repeal of the individual mandate in ACA to reduce the total deficit caused by the bill over a 10 year period.

    Which brings up my other objection: the budget reconciliation process that the GOP is using to pass bills with a simple majority thus eliminating the possibiility of a filibuster. The process was spelled out in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, in part as a response to President Nixon trimming budget bills passed by the Democratic Congress. The Byrd Amendment was introduced in 1975 and revised in 1990 which stated that such a bill not increase the national debt in the following 10 years. IMO we are overdue for another revision of the Byrd Amendment to clarify that it not apply to bills other than annual budget bills. No more funny business!

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    Why make it "they OWE me a tax break" and demonize those getting them? The discussion was about whether the tax plan will increase or decrease what families are paying. If the ones who WERE getting a tax break for medical expenses will no longer get it, they will lose out on the new plan.
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    Guess What?
    Pipelines still have Leaks and Spills!
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ting-decision/
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    Yep. Just a bit North of me. I'm anxious to hear what all of the "drill baby drillers" say now that it's piling up in their own back yards.
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    I believe one of our own on this forum hails from Whidbey. Is the "rock 'n roll potato" in the house?

    Navy says it will hold Whidbey Island aircrew accountable for tracing giant phallus over Okanogan County | The Spokesman-Review
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    Quote Originally Posted by g1 View Post
    Is the "rock 'n roll potato" in the house?
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!
    When Chuck changes his avatar, it'll be hot news around here. I like the Dog-Butt, myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g1 View Post
    I believe one of our own on this forum hails from Whidbey. Is the "rock 'n roll potato" in the house?

    Navy says it will hold Whidbey Island aircrew accountable for tracing giant phallus over Okanogan County | The Spokesman-Review
    Hey!!!!
    Maybe they were doing their job, practicing what they will draw over Pyongyang sky to show "Mr Little Rocket Man" that American Males Mean It !!!!
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    Matt Lauer, and Garrison Keillor too! Who's next, Santa Claus, The Pope?
    http://www.aol.com/article/news/2017...tion/23291893/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmartn149 View Post
    Matt Lauer, and Garrison Keillor too! Who's next, Santa Claus, The Pope?
    http://www.aol.com/article/news/2017...tion/23291893/
    Has Santa been hitting on the Elves again?
    We still have the head Perv in the White House!
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    Forty-two years ago, I was working in a factory that made snaps and fasteners. Like the others in my section of the factory, I was assigned to oversee 4 punch-presses. Each press had large heavy fly wheels, about 4 feet in diameter, that rotated at several hundred RPM, as the press stamped out slugs from a large spool of steel banding and gradually formed the slug into the male or female half of a snap over about six steps; the machine moving the stamped slug from right to left for each step. I must have made several million during my 3 months there. My/our job was to keep an eye on each of the presses, make sure they weren't running into problems, and load up a new spool of steel band when the previous one was used up.

    Occasionally the punches would get stuck in the material, and the machine would seize up, freezing the flywheel in place. On one of these occasions, I grabbed the crowbar I was provided with, placed one end in one of the holes along the perimeter of the flywheel, and attempted to dislodge the punch by moving the flywheel. Initially, I was going to pull the wheel in my direction, towards my head, but found it better/easier, from a cranking point of view, to push. Unfortunately, I had neglected to turn the machine off, since it looked like it was off. The motor wanted to rotate that flywheel, but the stuck punch was preventing it from doing so. I pushed, unstuck the punch, via the flywheel and the flywheel recommenced rotating at several hundred RPM. As luck would have it, that particular machine was positioned near an archway, and the flywheel itself was a few inches out into the archway.

    The machine grabbed the large crowbar and flung it across the factory, narrowly missing a rebound off the wall towards my head, and narrowly missing the primarily female employees working in the other part of the factory, sitting at their stations crimping the little pearloid inserts into the snaps that would be used for "western" shirts and such. It landed with a clang against the cement floor that could be easily heard above the generally 105db din of the factory. Happily, no one was killed or injured and no machines were harmed in the making of the film. But it could have been a LOT worse.

    As I stood shaking in shock at narrowly missing being the author of my own demise, the shop foreman came over to me, put his arm around my shoulder, and proceeded to take me around the shop, pointing out various large holes in the walls. He said calmly, "You're not the first person to do this. And you probably won't be the last one, either. Just don't let it happen again."

    What I did wasn't an attempt to crack a joke, or abuse anyone. It wasn't meant to offend, and probably put a bit of a scare into some of the women there who watched that crowbar fly past them a foot or two from their head. But I could have killed someone, which I think is more than a little worse than offending or marginalizing someone with a remark. I wasn't fired. I wasn't pilloried in social media (although everyone knew I had done it, so I felt deeply embarassed by my stupidity). My punishment was "Don't do it again", and I went back to work. They were satisfied that I understand the consequences of my poor judgment, and would rehabilitate quickly.

    So when I see Garrison Keillor being fired for unintentionally touching a woman's bare back, I have to wonder about the extent to which the current (i.e., November) zeitgeist has somehow turned anything that fits under the rather large banner of sexual harassment (and there is much falling under that banner which IS truly bad, but some is just dumb stuff that merits a sincere apology and red face, serious reflection, and quick self-rehabilitation) as falling just short of warranting being rendered to a Syrian prison by black ops.

    By virtue of celebrity, the punishment has to be spectacular and acquire a symbolic value that declares of the employer "Hey, I'm the good guy here, riding to the rescue. This wasn't one of my employees doing something stupid that they should be sorry for and get back on the horse. This is me doing something that lives up to your wildest expectations of me. It's the most benevolent and socially responsible action an employer could EVER take." In other words, this has turned into an exercise in branding, and seems to have stopped being about social justice.

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    I just googled and read what happened and this is MADNESS.

    The awfully disproportionate ratio between presumed "sin" and actual career destroying punishment is unbelievable, comparable to what would have happened to a North Korean journalist who didn´t speak on very enthusiastic terms about the "beloved Leader".

    Of course "North Korea is Hell on Earth" , you can´t even *think* "wrong"| ... but what has Politically Correct USA become?
    For those heavily punished on minor faults it does not look very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J M Fahey View Post
    For those heavily punished on minor faults it does not look very different.
    I guess with all those states with "legal" (as if they could) weed need something new to keep the prisons filled... you know, Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Incarceration...

    Justin

    Edit: maybe "Big Justice" is better. Give it a wholesome spin...
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    Oh, our prisons here in Michigan are overflowing already. When I was in college, or at least of college age, pot was a major felony, you could get life for possession over a certain amount. You could get ten years just for having a couple pot seeds on you. We now have medicinal pot, and I think recreational pot is on the ballot next year. But if we make pot legal, all those poor saps already in prison are unlikely to get a blanket amnesty. Each one individually would have to sue for his sentence to be commuted. Prosecutors would resist them all.
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    FLYNN PLEADS GUILTY!
    Michael Flynn pleads guilty to lying to FBI, is cooperating with Mueller - CNNPolitics
    Why the Flynn Guilty Plea Is Bad News for Pence?and Other Senior Trump Officials ? Mother Jones
    Will the house of cards fall down?
    I hope so!
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    **Remember Flynn hollering "Lock Her Up"?
    Now let's "Lock Him Up" !
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    biological warfare

    For anyone following the bizarre story from Cuba, some new developments:
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    There's a few possibilities:

    1) "Remember the Maine! To hell with Spain!!!!!!!!" was good enough for invasion of Cuba in 1898, so why wouldn't something similar work a second time?

    2) Project MK Ultra recharged ; having test subjects isolated from the general population improves test results, being outside USA in a small island in a very controlled environment (insida an Embassy none the less) can also help.
    If any, complicate pesky Journalists job.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

    Oh, but wouldn´t I consider advanced Cuban scientists running this?
    With Technology not even USA can detect?

    yea, sure, if only you consider this to be the average Cuban Scientist:
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    I'm in agreement that Cuba is probably off the hook for this one.
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