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    Which winder and more

    Hi guys I have just joined and I have been having a lot of fun learning from videos etc about winding pickups and I'm ready to dive in. I already do some guitar setups etc and have always wanted to wind my own pickups.

    I have a few hundred pounds for a winder and have been looking at the mojo tone due to the built in gauge meter. I know I need an ociliscope to but no idea what to go for with one of these so I'm looking for a kind of shopping list.

    Also I don't just want to be doing things to blinded so what are the most important scientific principles that I need to understand to design pickups from scratch and what books if any would you recommend.

    Looking forward to years of fun winding.

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    This needs to be in the main area, or possibly in the tool area, since he is talking pickup design, getting scientific, and O scopes.
    We try to keep the B/H area, to simple basic winding, with known basic winding data and concepts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    This needs to be in the main area, or possibly in the tool area, since he is talking pickup design, getting scientific, and O scopes.
    We try to keep the B/H area, to simple basic winding, with known basic winding data and concepts.
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    I am sorry I hope this can be moved. I only asked in here as I am new and wanted to know where to start.

    Cheers for the heads up.

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    Seems like a pertinent topic to me ...
    I have a Mojo winder. I like it.
    It works fine as is for single coil fender style pickups. If you're interested in winding humbuckers I recommend that you make a new jig to replace the one that is provided.
    The gauss meter is indeed handy.

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    The first thing that comes to mind for me is if you're only building pickups for yourself then why spend $500 on a Mojo winder when you can build one for 1/10th the cost or less in a few hours.
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    Have a mojo jury still out you can get a guass meter for $110.00 at r.b.annis company model 25 Hey Stratz do you know the lacquer solution mix for a vintage strat pickup??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrc View Post
    Have a mojo jury still out you can get a guass meter for $110.00 at r.b.annis company model 25 Hey Stratz do you know the lacquer solution mix for a vintage strat pickup??
    $110 0-2000g (0-200 mT) gaussmeters are commonplace on eBay. Make sure you read the specs to confirm that they read DC gauss or Tesla. ELF meters are of no use for testing pickup magnets.

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    Best damn gaussmeter for pickup makers (in my intemperate opinion) is the Spin Doctor from Gravitas.
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    As it turns out, this specification is deceptively close to being useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrc View Post
    do you know the lacquer solution mix for a vintage strat pickup??
    As if it matters ,use what ever finish you have or can get locally & experiment with it .if spraying bobbins you may want thin.if from aerosol can it's already thinned you may need more than 1 coat ,I dunk bobbins in a jar of non thinned lacquer & it's good .in winter i use water based finish as i do it inside without any odor .
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    Quote Originally Posted by salvarsan View Post
    $110 0-2000g (0-200 mT) gaussmeters are commonplace on eBay. Make sure you read the specs to confirm that they read DC gauss or Tesla. ELF meters are of no use for testing pickup magnets.

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    Best damn gaussmeter for pickup makers (in my intemperate opinion) is the Spin Doctor from Gravitas.
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    I agree with your intemperate opinion 100%!

    For a start, I'd recommend a Thomas winder from eBay if you're not looking to DIY. They're reasonably priced and can resell for close to what you paid if it's not your thing...the builder usually has 1-3 machines at a time which keeps the price steady imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheopisIV View Post
    I agree with your intemperate opinion 100%!

    For a start, I'd recommend a Thomas winder from eBay if you're not looking to DIY. They're reasonably priced and can resell for close to what you paid if it's not your thing...the builder usually has 1-3 machines at a time which keeps the price steady imho.
    Please no, do not buy a Thomas winder from Ebay. I have attached a few pictures, i have many more because i was going to do a write up on this. The build quality is bad. Even though it may last my lifetime +20 years, i have to warn people what they are buying. I can go on and on but you do not hot glue a pulley to a shaft, you do not hot glue a knob to hold it on. I'm done, when i get time i will do the entire picture thing and write up and hopefully he will never sell another.winder1.jpgwinder2.jpgwinder3.jpgwinder4.jpg
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    Holy crap! That's pretty gross. Mine had hot glue on some of the wires as strain relief but I don't recall it being used structurally. I had to replace a bearing which he sent for free and involved a good teardown but otherwise was a great starter machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozz View Post
    Please no, do not buy a Thomas winder from Ebay. I have attached a few pictures, i have many more because i was going to do a write up on this. The build quality is bad. Even though it may last my lifetime +20 years, i have to warn people what they are buying. I can go on and on but you do not hot glue a pulley to a shaft, you do not hot glue a knob to hold it on. I'm done, when i get time i will do the entire picture thing and write up and hopefully he will never sell another.Click image for larger version. 

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    That's something else, he must have a hot glue fetish.

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    "Hot glue fetish" -Band name?
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