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    From our canadien friends with too much time on their hands


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    Interesting, but he's missing a whole whack of important, and more quintessentially Canadian sounds. Where is the sound of snowmobiles, the crunch of snow, a loon call, a moose call, and so many more.

    As for "weird" chip flavours, I don't think we have much over the UK. Yes, there is dill pickle and ketchup-flavoured chips, but on our recent trip to Scotland we saw roast lamb and mint, smoked ham and pickle, roast beef and mustard, prawn cocktail, flame-grilled steak, Marmite, and Worcester sauce, among others. Yes, some time in the late 70's, the Hostess company test-marketed fruit-flavoured chips (grape, orange, cherry) in Canada that tanked VERY quickly. But these noted above are still going strong and easily found in the average corner store.

    But thanks.

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    Chips? In the UK that term refers to what you call French-Fries. We call 'em crisps.

    As for flavours, we used to have hedgehog, too. My all-time favourite is celery.

    An interesting side-story; Not many years ago I was with my wife-to-be in Sheffield. A very attractive woman approached us (me) and asked if we wanted to take part in a product trial. I thought "If this is the Moonies, I'm in!"

    We were led down a few side streets then up a couple of floors in an office building. Set out on tables were large numbers of gigantic bags of crisps (chips). We were interrogated for 15 minutes in what seemed like a job interview. Then we were separated and sat down with a moderately attractive, but severe woman with a restricted sense of humour. Nurse Ratched crossed with Rosa Klebb. She dispensed three large bowls of crisps, labelled A, B and C. I had to taste them individually and complete a questionnaire. They were then taken away and three more bowls placed in front of me, but the questioning became more difficult - is A preferable to C. Compared to the first sample, is that B preferable to this samples C. Every damn permutation. Then another three bowls were placed next to the three I already had. More taste comparisons, more questions. This went on for over an hour.

    By the end of it my tongue and lips were sore and the roof of my mouth bleeding. I met back up with my partner and she'd experienced the same thing. We were about to leave and the woman who led us there said there was a reward for taking part. We went back to the reception just as all the uneaten crisps were dumped together in a goody-bag. First job was to drop it in the nearest litter bin.

    I've never been so keen on crisps since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Bailey View Post
    By the end of it my tongue and lips were sore and the roof of my mouth bleeding.
    That's what vinegar & road salt chips/crisps do for me. A challenge to eat!

    What does hedgehog taste like, or supposed to?

    FWIW I favor "everything" bagels. Poppyseed, sesame, garlic, onion, who knows what else. That would make an interesting chip/crisp.

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    The hedgehog crisps were pretty indistinct - kind of beefy, kind of savoury. The company that made them claimed they'd taste-tested them on old Romany folk, who used to pack a hedgehog in clay and bake it in the embers of a wood fire. Removing the clay removed the skin along with the spines. It was just another 1980s marketing angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Bailey View Post
    The company that made them claimed they'd taste-tested them on old Romany folk, who used to pack a hedgehog in clay and bake it in the embers of a wood fire. Removing the clay removed the skin along with the spines..
    Yikes! Now that's ethnic dining... I'm surprised chips weren't offered in "Crunchy Frog" variety, from the Monty Python skit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Bailey View Post
    The hedgehog crisps were pretty indistinct - kind of beefy, kind of savoury. The company that made them claimed they'd taste-tested them on old Romany folk, who used to pack a hedgehog in clay and bake it in the embers of a wood fire. Removing the clay removed the skin along with the spines. It was just another 1980s marketing angle.
    Our own Gauchos have a very similar recipe: "Pollo al barro" (mud chicken).
    They killed a chicken, gutted it, covered it in mud, shoved it in a pit full of embers, shoveling some on top, and went to work.
    4-5 hours later they pulled it out, cracked the mud envelope, it pulled away feathers and most of the skin, and chicken inside was moist, tender, tasty (flavour concentrates, has nowhere else to go) and very well cooked.

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    I knew they were called "crisps". IN fact, I only learned about the Worcester Sauce flavoured ones by Googling "Walker's Crisps". I just needed to retain the local terminology here.

    What get called "kettle chips" here (kettle crisps?) are sturdier chunks. Not necessarily thicker, but substantially more rigid, and often unflat. That combination of unusual shape and rigidity, can often do damage to the roof of one's mouth. And if the flavouring is intense or highly acidic (like salt and vinegar), that can hurt even more. They aren't intrinsically dangerous, but one does need to be a bit more careful eating them, lest danger befall the chewer.

    Around here, some places serve what they call "pub chips". While retaining the general shape of crisps, they are cut somewhat thicker, and still retain some modest pliability when they come out of the deep fryer. Usually served with a dipping sauce of some kind.

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    Where is the sound of snowmobiles, the crunch of snow, a loon call, a moose call, and so many more
    Just watched the video ...... he "had" to use sounds created by spending $150 Can , which he did.

    That said, I donīt think that was the original idea, at all.

    The video and music scratched me the wrong way, on many counts, so I could barely stand about a minute of it.
    It might improve at the end, I couldnīt care less.

    Candian friends, donīt worry, I donīt consider that video or anything surrounding it "Canadian" at all, so my comments are not meant for you.

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    I'd like it a lot more if he hadn't used all the electro-gizmos to treat everything. And if you wanna change the pitch of the syrup, well, sample when opened, take a sip, sample again, take another sip, sample, etc.

    And, THAT WAS <NOT> "GUITAR DISTORTION!" That was a keyboard trying to imitate a guitar that was trying to imitate a keytar.

    So many missed opportunities to use some somewhat "canadianer" sounds!

    Happy "sorta-birthday" to y'alls anyway! Maybe we should all get together one year and have a massive blowup at midnight between July 2 & 3? Bring fire. And wildlife to cook over the fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Thomas View Post
    And if you wanna change the pitch of the syrup, well, sample when opened, take a sip, sample again, take another sip, sample, etc.
    Ehrrm, do Canadians sip maple syrup from the bottle?

    -rb

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    Probably not on a regular basis, but it <IS> a more authentic way to change the pitch of the instrument instead of cheating.

    Americans do chug it, though...

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    I can verify that as a card-carrying American, I just this morning at breakfast dumped about a quart of the stuff on my waffles.

    Of course Canadians sip from the bottle, they are too polite to chug it. Down our way, in the country we just suck on a maple tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    I can verify that as a card-carrying American, I just this morning at breakfast dumped about a quart of the stuff on my waffles.

    Of course Canadians sip from the bottle, they are too polite to chug it. Down our way, in the country we just suck on a maple tree.
    "Stuff" is what you dumped on your waffles. Unless you have been given real marple surple as a gift, the going rate even for the cheapest retail is $20 a quart. Restaurants don't give it away. We have plenty of Aunt Jemima / Mrs. Butterworths / Vermont Maid / Sysco (restaurant supplier) FAKE maple flavored corn syrup in circulation, it's cheap, and it does satisfy most customers. Places that offer authentic maple syrup commonly give you a choice "authentic maple or no?" and charge an extra $2 or so if you choose the real thing.

    One thing that's on my bucket list to try is birch syrup. From what I hear it's made in very small quantities in Alaska.

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    You are right, maple flavored syrup. But in our society it is what serves. I call Taco Bell "Mexican food", and Olive Garden "Italian". I blow my nose in "Kleenex" even if store brand. And god help me, I call those transistorized things "guitar amps".

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    Probably the funniest food naming I ever saw was in Dublin. We needed some kind of "fat" to cook our eggs in because our hostel had one teflon frying pan with no teflon left, and no oil or butter to be had. So my two friends and I went on a quest for BACON, source of the ultimate frying fat. Got to the little convenience store and found "Maple-Flavoured Canadian-Style Irish Bacon." Didn't pay much attention til we got back and only then realized, Irish Bacon is NOTHING like American. There was no fat to be found on it. So we went back to the store for oil.

    That said, the "bacon" was pretty good! And, down here in the "South," meaning, anywhere away from the Canadian border, we've been getting ripped off with our "Canadian Bacon." Go to Canadia and I find out real Canadian Bacon is about four times as thick, less salty, and ten times heartier than those little flimsy round bologna slabs they've been giving me my whole life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Thomas View Post
    ...real Canadian Bacon is about four times as thick, less salty, and ten times heartier than those little flimsy round bologna slabs they've been giving me my whole life...
    You're referring to McMuffins? Didn't you know that The Ronald lies? Chickens don't have nuggets, either.

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    Not just McSquirts, everywhere has been giving me fake Canadian Bacon. Even grocery stores.

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    And I have never caught one of those square fish they get the filets from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    And I have never caught one of those square fish they get the filets from.
    Oh, you donīt "catch" the square fish.
    They are *made* in the same hi Tech Japanese machine used to produce these watermelons:

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    You may not be aware, but the "real stuff" is treated as the high-value commodity that it is (higher price per volume than oil). Indeed, there is a federation of producers in Quebec, whose output is pooled for export (although some folks do package and sell their own). Several years ago, a couple of guys robbed the warehouse of millions of dollars worth of the stuff.

    Reputed ringleader in $18.7M maple syrup heist found guilty - Montreal - CBC News

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    Robbed them of their syrup...

    "This is a stick up!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by J M Fahey View Post
    The video and music scratched me the wrong way, on many counts, so I could barely stand about a minute of it.
    It might improve at the end, I couldnīt care less.

    Candian friends, donīt worry, I donīt consider that video or anything surrounding it "Canadian" at all, so my comments are not meant for you.
    I'm with you, I thought the video illustrated that yes, we have annoying people up here too! (and music).
    As to the Canadian bacon, what I think is the traditional type is 'back bacon' which is round rather than strips, and much less fat.
    Somewhere in the thread I thought I saw the spelling 'Canadien', which is the french Canadian spelling of the word.

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