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    Dinosaur brass-era guitars

    I think it was the late 70s/early 80s when this stuff came out - brass everything for your guitar. Brass nuts, bridges, sustain blocks, scratchplates, knobs, pickup surrounds, screws, neck plates and everything/anything else. I just found a jack plug from that era. Insanely proportioned and will easily take an 8mm cable - Compare it with the regular Switchcraft plug with 6mm cable. Think of the weight of that plus a cable hanging off a socket.

    Trouble is your hands ended up smelling like you handle loose change all day in an amusement arcade for a living.

    You needed a good, solid walnut or mahogany body to show it all off. The heavier the better. Brass+weight=sustain was the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Bailey View Post
    I think it was the late 70s/early 80s when this stuff came out - brass everything for your guitar. Brass nuts, bridges, sustain blocks, scratchplates, knobs, pickup surrounds, screws, neck plates and everything/anything else. I just found a jack plug from that era. Insanely proportioned and will easily take an 8mm cable - Compare it with the regular Switchcraft plug with 6mm cable. Think of the weight of that plus a cable hanging off a socket.

    Trouble is your hands ended up smelling like you handle loose change all day in an amusement arcade for a living.

    You needed a good, solid walnut or mahogany body to show it all off. The heavier the better. Brass+weight=sustain was the idea.

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    I have one guitar with a brass nut. I really like it. It increases bite and sustain for open chords. But the setup has to be perfect. I like zero frets too if the headstock angle is right.

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    I really like zero frets. I haven't had a guitar with a brass nut for a while. Both always struck me as being more consistent than having bone/plastic for open chords. Maybe this is where the brass craze took off - if a brass nut gives better sustain, then maybe replace everything else with brass. Was it Mighty Mite that set this going?

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    I have been slowly, but surely preparing the collection of a friend who passed away a half-dozen years ago, for sale, on behalf of his widow.

    One of the instruments is a spotlessly clean Vantage from the Matsumoku factory, with the laminated body. The other is a similar model that I guess he had picked up dirt cheap because it was an absolute mess that someone had painted black and covered with stickers. I mention it here because the restoration of all that brass hardware - knobs, nut, bridge, etc. - that had corroded over the years was almost as hard as restoring the body.

    The brass craze was really one symptom of a broader craze that associated mass with sustain. Keep in mind that the brass thing occurred at the same time that the Ampeg/Armstrong Lucite-body guitar was being produced, and various infrequently-used ultra-dense tropical woods were being introduced. It was the period when Fender made the Rosewood Telecaster, which weighed a lot more (I know because I played one in the band I was in).

    Sidenote: The "Fathead" and Fatfinger products came somewhat later. These are/were brass inserts that add mass to the headstock, and would attach to the backside of the headstock, allowing the tuners to be re-installed over top. These products CAN improve sustain in some instances, but are no panacea, any more than a brass nut could do things for non-open strings. My advice for determining if such an addition could do anything for your instrument is to strum it, unplugged, then press the headstock against a door-frame to add effective mass to the headstock. If the sustain improves with the temporary added mass, then maybe a little more brass will yield some improvement.

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    I had a cable like that; picked it up probably '79 or '80. I'm pretty sure the brand was Whirlwind.
    WW's advertising hyped the robustness of their cables, compared to wimpy traditional guitar cords.
    Unfortunately, the cable was microphonic as hell. And as Mark noted, the brass contacts corroded in no time.
    Note: I thought the corrosion was due to use of dissimilar metals, but Wikipedia shows brass is slightly less dissimilar to lead or tin than is copper.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvan...n#Anodic_index

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