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    Any idea of good and high quality speakers with a retrol style?


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    Seeing as you couldn't even come up with a good chick name, I'm just gonna report you straight off. Spammer.
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    if you cant tell me proper answer just dont reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workinghard17 View Post
    Any idea of good and high quality speakers with a retrol style?
    I'll take a chance - have a look, & listen if you can, to Celestion Blue Alnico and Celestion Gold Alnico. Neither is cheap, and the Blue can't take a lot of power, but they're great sounding speakers presumably made the same way they were 50+ years ago. Google away, and you might find sound samples on Celestion's website or vendors websites. Good luck!

    The guys are in a bad mood today - we've had a couple bots show up recently. I'll give you 'benefit of the doubt'. Bots generally don't start up albums & posting photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    Bots generally don't start up albums & posting photos.
    Unless it's a pic of a nice looking young woman?
    I don't see any reason in the world why a regular newb would insert in their first post a link to digital water flow meters?
    Spammers can be bots but also people who just post spam links, often just vaguely related to the forum focus.
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    Hey!
    What happened to the link for the digital water flow meters?

    I need one.
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    i was preferring with this link. not that one.
    sorry for that. by the way im not a spammer. either bot. just approve this link so you can see what i talking about. just help me look for cheap one.

    https://www.amazon.com/Wolverine-RSR.../dp/B00FFE80GW

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    Workinghard17, what is your native language? Perhaps we can find an interpreter.

    I take it you are seeking a new speaker and/or radio that looks old, for a cheap price. Is that correct?
    Do you specifically want a Bluetooth speaker and AM/FM radio combo, like the one in the link you provided?
    I personally find that stuff silly, but to each his/her own.

    I think you will find more people in this forum who can tell you how to restore a real vintage radio than who can tell you where to buy a fake vintage radio. But who knows? Some one here might be into that stuff.

    I see Crosley still makes phony cathedral radios, with a built-in CD player. Only $95.73 at Amazon, with free shipping. Such a deal. In the 70s, you could buy them at Radio Shack, with built-in cassette player. How times change. Not.

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    I guess they're kinda cute, in a tacky sort of way. But I prefer to listen to Eddie Cantor on my genuine Philco.

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    To be honest i was looking for with the same figure of the link i gave you but not a modern system the real retro with retro sound. if you play old recordings it gave you chills. so creepy. but its a gift to my mother on her 62 birthday. she loves listening to old music using that kind of speaker. but sadly her speaker broke. cant play anymore. i love her seeing on her racking chair and taking a nap while listening on her speaker. im still looking in ebay/amazon etc even other country who had a online stores. but cant find 1. i forgot what is the brand but i still remember the looks of it. it look like the same image on the link.

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    also it has a turning table on top. any ideas

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    and need little help with the link keep on popping out on my post even on my social media. tnx

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    Ok, Iīll take it at face value .
    1) so you need a retro sounding system for your Mother?
    2) the MAIN question here is what kind of Musical program/material will she be listening to?
    a) will she play old vinyl records?
    Not popular today and equipment which does is often geared for nostalgic but rich Audio enthusiasts, such equipment is *expensive*
    In that case forget new stuff, head straight to Salvation Army/Goodwill shops and get a nice old but perfectly working 60`s console, with radio and gramophone player.
    b) will she listen to AM/FM radio?
    Maybe also to Golden Oldies downloaded from "somewhere" in MP3 or some other Digital format?
    Then look no further than the one you showed.
    You will NOT get that for any cheaper price; in fact itīs cheap even at U$75 or so.
    FWIW the speaker LeoGnardo suggested ... based on your description ... starts at U$275 and up
    Celestion Blue 15W, 12" Vintage Alnico Guitar Speaker | Musician's Friend
    And itīs literally "a speaker" , no electronics whatsoever, not even a cabinet, just the speaker in a cardboard box.

    Just as a side note, and on the spam/bot side of the problem: we treat newbies well, very well, while we get pissed off at spambots and like.
    Please agree that posting a spam link on your first ever post does not exactly look good.
    And adding a Korean K-Pop fan girl as your first and only image does not help much either.

    EDIT: if your Mom still wants to listen to "old Music" on Vinyl records, hey, I am *older* than your Mom by a couple years and even when I was a kid music around was early Beatles and Stones, Monkees and such, we are not talking scratching 40īs 78rpm Jazz or Country records.
    Whatīs my point?
    We are probably talking mid 60`s and later Music here, which has been digitized and is widely available, either in CD or plain MP3, so even if she has the original vinyl records (or some cassette tape) , exact same Music is available in modern media and usually cheaper to boot.

    When I listen to Beatles and Stones or similar old stuff, I straight play straight MP3s, period.
    Lately Iīve been listening to stuff I wouldnīt even be able to buy on vinyl, such as Rolling Stones "Black Box" series (never released before experimental records and Studio leftovers), Janis Joplin pirate live show recordings or even my current shop background Music: Manhattan Transfer full discography (some 39 LPīs or so).
    The point being that your Mom can listen practically to any and all of her favorite Music on Digital media players,with higher quality and not messing with old worn records.
    Besides the fact that any cheap turntable included in a $75 "Music Center" will be awfully horrible , and that using the polite form
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    My mom is 68 and still listens to her album collection on an old Techniques turn table (a nice one with a heavy plate, adjustable counter balance stylus arm and a strobe timing adjuster). Of course she knows, and is hip to modern digital options. Some people are just nostalgic about the way it used to be and fight moving forward.

    At 62 I would think a retro table radio (or an actual vintage table radio) is WAAAY too retro. An old Marantz tube AM/FM receiver/amplifier, a nice turntable and a pair of Pioneer stereo monitors with 12" woofers might be her "nostalgia". And that wouldn't be cheap at all!

    But then, I recognize the language barrier. It's possible that my American reference to her era doesn't apply here.

    As far as acquiring an actual vintage piece, I have an old Telefunken table radio from the late fifties. It will be hard as hell to service. Forget about restoration. Fidelity wise it's about ten times advanced from the sort of thing you seem to be after. And I literally can't give it away because the shipping to anywhere is too expensive.

    Since you're in Ca. I'll guess you're near enough to one or more major cities.?. I'll second the suggestion of thrift stores. You probably won't find exactly what you want, but you may find something old and charming anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by workinghard17 View Post
    ...its a gift to my mother on her 62 birthday. she loves listening to old music using that kind of speaker. but sadly her speaker broke. cant play anymore. i love her seeing on her racking chair and taking a nap while listening on her speaker.
    I can totally relate with your mom.
    My next birthday will be number 62.
    I love to nap on my racking chair while listening to old music of my youth.




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    Great song! Great memories. But I'll reword something I said above to be more inclusive... Our American nostalgia of mom's demographic may not apply.
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    And it is generational. I am older, my mom listened to "beautiful music" which meant Mantovani, The Melachrino Stings, Perry Como, Andy Williams. And NEVER any louder than the music at the dentists's office.

    68? Hell I am 70, retro to our generation is Woodstock. Maybe an 8-track would be nostalgic. I had one in 1969.
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    It might be easier to to fix the one you have. Do you or anyone you know have a bit of electronics knowledge? What is the make and model number?
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    At 62 I would think a retro table radio (or an actual vintage table radio) is WAAAY too retro.
    Thatīs my point.
    But then, I recognize the language barrier. It's possible that my American reference to her era doesn't apply here.
    Poster is in California.
    Not even in the Mid West where nostalgia might involve banjo, fiddles, or , further East, accordions.
    As in any young State, traditions sonīt go too far back.
    I can totally relate with your mom.
    My next birthday will be number 62.
    I love to nap on my racking chair while listening to old music of my youth.
    Allman Brothers? .... NOW weīre talking.
    And it is generational. I am older, my mom listened to "beautiful music" which meant Mantovani, The Melachrino Stings, Perry Como, Andy Williams. And NEVER any louder than the music at the dentists's office.
    True, but your Mom is a fullgeneration earlier.
    OPīs Mom is younger than you or me.
    I bet some conclusion can be drawn from that but since itīs somewhat depressive I wonīt
    To use some numbers instead of labels: being 62, she was born in 1954, so her "youth" started , say, at 12 or 13 y.o. (anything earlier is "kid stuff" and usually despised after becoming an "adult" at the mature age of 14/15 y.o. ) so we are talking around 1966/1967 and later.
    Now go check your yellowing dog eared Billboard magazines and refresh (because in fact you already know the answers) what Music was popular way back then.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ingles_in_1967

    These definitely would have been heard on a home stereo (probably stacked on a milk crate-probably with VU meters on the front ) through twin console speakers capable of stopping your heart. I suppose you could put it all on a table if you had to, but it wasn't a table radio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J M Fahey View Post
    Poster is in California.
    But Mom may be from the "old country" (wherever that is).
    Poster does not seem to speak fluent Californian.

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    Here's another thought: Maybe Mom listened to music on *her* mother's (or grandmother's) radio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ingles_in_1967
    These definitely would have been heard on a home stereo...
    Maybe in your home, but I definitely remember breakfast accompanied by some of those songs on the kitchen counter "table" radio.

    And "Pleasant Valley Sunday" on my kid sister's close-and-play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjb View Post
    "Pleasant Valley Sunday" on my kid sister's close-and-play.
    The authors of that song (Gerry Goffin & Carole King) lived about 2 miles away from the house where I grew up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    The authors of that song (Gerry Goffin & Carole King) lived about 2 miles away from the house where I grew up.
    Ok... You want a cookie for that?

    Just kidding. That's close proximity to genuine greatness If you had met them I would have been serious about the cookie offer.
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    Hey, I met Gary US Bonds once, even ran sound for him that gig. That's pretty nostalgic.

    I prefer chocolate chip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    That's close proximity to genuine greatness
    Heck I might have delivered their newspaper. Until I did some research & found they were a piece further down the road (Pleasant Valley Way) beyond the border of my route. I'll take a chocolate chip too, Enzo & me will have a party!

    Joe Walsh went to high school in the next town (Montclair), Whoopi Goldberg grew up on t'other side of the hill, John Scher got his start promoting concerts at my high school, but there wasn't a dam' thing going on there until I left town. Squaresville, USA zip code L-seven.

    Enough thread hijack-

    Now where can we find a nice sort-of hi fi for our new friend workinghard17? Mom might have to settle for some kind of boom box.

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    Nostalgia (OFF TOPIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by J M Fahey View Post
    ... in the Mid West where nostalgia might involve banjo, fiddles, or , further East, accordions.
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    These definitely would have been heard on a home stereo (probably stacked on a milk crate-probably with VU meters on the front ) through twin console speakers capable of stopping your heart.
    Not everyone in the U.S.A. had cutting-edge stereo systems.

    My parents never got rid of the mono Heathkit "Hi-Fi" that my dad built before I was born. It had a single DIY Jensen cabinet and, IIRC, a Lafayette turntable with crystal tone cartridge. When we were kids, my sister and I would make the needle skip dancing the polka to Dad's Whoopee John records. Later on, I think I heard "Suite Judy Blue Eyes" through the tuner approximately a bazillion times- as the NYC "progressive" station played it on the half-hour.

    Quality-wise, my high school music system was a step down:
    A cheap turntable plugged into the AUX channel of the Heathkit TA-17 that Dad & I built together.
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    But what it lacked in fidelity, it made up in volume.
    Remember this notice?
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    There's nothing quite like "Mississippi Queen" played full blast through a 120W combo amp.

    And let's not forget transistor radios. We had one hidden in the scarecrow in the garden. (Some "expert"- probably Readers' Digest- claimed it would fool the birds. Fat chance.) For whatever reason, I specifically recall hoeing corn to "Low Rider" and pruning tomato plants to Jose Feliciano's version of "Light My Fire." Memory is weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjb View Post
    But Mom may be from the "old country" (wherever that is).
    Poster does not seem to speak fluent Californian.

    Here's another thought: Maybe Mom listened to music on *her* mother's (or grandmother's) radio.
    FWIW I am in Argentina, 6000/8000 miles away, and clearly remember 90% songs from that Billboard list, most heard through the radio, or bought at a copule "teen specialized" shops.
    Even remember when I heard some for the first time, some girls I danced with to that music , birthdays where I either received or gave some of them.
    Even MY Motherīs dismay when she bought 2 singles for my birthday, following salesmanīs suggestion, one was a Ray Coniff sticky syrupy type which could give you Diabetes and the other ("your kid will certainly LOVE this one") was Nancy Sinatraīs "These boots were made for walking" ... next day they were traded for a Doors LP, donīt remember the name but have the impression of a somewhat violet hued sleeve with black and white pictures.

    That much for "not being in the USA" bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    Joe Walsh went to high school in the next town (Montclair),..
    HA! I met Joe... I'm keeping my cookies.
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    Oh, my stereo wasn't cutting edge by a stretch. There were fantastic pieces of ten to fifteen year old used gear that could be found at garage sales and flea markets. I DID have the Marantz stereo (not tubes though) with the Pioneer monitors, but I didn't pay top dollar for it. Some of it stuff people covet now and when I brought it home my mom complained about the "old junk" I was buying.
    "I've heard magic defined as "a technology you don't understand". By that aphorism, the folks in this forum are practicing wizards, able to summon AND control the lightning demon, and make charms to allow others to use the demon in certain ways." R.G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    Joe Walsh went to high school in the next town (Montclair),
    I went to high school with a guy who used to beat up Jon Bon Jovi in grammar school (Sayreville).

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    Quote Originally Posted by J M Fahey View Post
    FWIW I am in Argentina, 6000/8000 miles away, and clearly remember 90% songs from that Billboard list, most heard through the radio,....
    Yea, yea, yea, and in the U.S.A. we had the Bossa Nova craze with the the Gilberto and the Jobim and the Brazil '66 and all that (and yes I know that Brazil and Argentina aren't the same place, but they're in the same general direction) but the thing is, I have a hunch that Mom was in Korea. The culture might have been a bit different there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    Now where can we find a nice sort-of hi fi for our new friend workinghard17? Mom might have to settle for some kind of boom box.
    OK, let's think form, fit, function.... Nah, I don't feel like being so structured.

    Maybe the linked Wolverine speaker/radio is the way to go.
    What are the requirements? I think just radio with phono input. Easy human interface, and bonus points for looking like Mom's.
    The Wolverine doesn't have phono input, but it does have a 3.5mm AUX in jack.

    So, assuming the original turntable still works, we need a separate phono preamp and RCA to 3.5mm mini plug stereo cable.
    https://turntabledoc.com/everything-...age-turntable/

    BTW, I didn't realize that "retro radios" are currently a thing.
    https://flipboard.com/@juleshart/top-10-best-retro-radios-reviews-2016-2017-bfccpcgqy
    https://www.amazon.com/slp/retro-radio/ezuvmmar5v6x3nh
    I'm still not 100% sure this thread isn't a wild spam chase, but I have learned something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjb View Post
    I went to high school with a guy who used to beat up Jon Bon Jovi in grammar school (Sayreville).

    -rb
    Really need a "love" button here!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    At 62 I would think a retro table radio (or an actual vintage table radio) is WAAAY too retro.
    And WAAAY to much of an electrocution risk. The All-American Five had a hot chassis in a flimsy bakelite shell.
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