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    Edcor Beerlog and Audio Woo

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    A nice travel log about obscure beer venues in the West, as told by one of the best makers of transformers in the US

    Also this discussion of "Audio Woo" at the rational wiki had me very entertained!
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Audio_woo
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    Somehow linking a beer blog to your magnetics component shop site just makes it feel more "shop" like. Like what you expect an old school magnetics shop to be, but expressed in modern media I've certainly enjoyed an old school attitude from them when ordering iron. Big

    And now I'm thirsty! You can hardly get a good "red" here in the PNW anymore. The IPA reigns supreme almost to the exclusion of other styles. Fortunately we have a specialty beer shop here! Yep. A store on Whidbey Island that doesn't specialize in lumber or fishing tackle.?. I'll need to go in and see Greg, the proprietor. I don't get in there much so he's going to pull the usual "Hey stranger" in his Cajun accent. I'll ask for a red and, as usual, he'll put me onto something great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post

    And now I'm thirsty! You can hardly get a good "red" here in the PNW anymore. The IPA reigns supreme almost to the exclusion of other styles...
    I remember an incident late in my time in Portland where I yelled at the "beer guy" at our local market after finding nothing in the "brown ale" category outside Samuel Smith in his 200+ selection:

    "Orange flavored friggin IPA?? Whats next Arugula and hemp? Artisanal kombucha IPA??? Give me a goddamn break! Get something in thats BROWN and wasn't invented because it needed to be shipped 4500 miles to central Asia without turning into cloudy piss!!!"

    it was not my finest hour and it was probably best that I left...
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    Damn grapefruit juice lovers are getting to me too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    The IPA reigns supreme almost to the exclusion of other styles.
    My understanding is that a lot of the world's hops come from Washington state. I guess that would be part of the reason they would like to promote ultra-hoppy beer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by g1 View Post
    My understanding is that a lot of the world's hops come from Washington state. I guess that would be part of the reason they would like to promote ultra-hoppy beer?
    I believe some of the world's weed also comes from Washington state. marijuana-related-hops
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    You wanna talk offensive?

    I hate clams. They taste like clams, which is a bad taste. I am OK with tomato juice, I prefer V8, but tomato juice is OK with me. A bloody Mary at breakfast is a Xmas decadence for me. Now why anyone would ruin perfectly good tomato juice by putting clams in it I will never know, but Clamato is a real thing.

    Now the kicker. They put the Clamato IN the beer. Not something the bartender does, the freaking Budweiser folks put Clamato in their beer. Says so right on the can. What gets me is that this is not some weird odd thing three guys in Timbuktu like, this is main stream enough it is in the coolers at the local convenience stores like 7/11 and Speedway.

    Fortunately I can walk next door for a fresh Belgian Tripel whenever I like. Or an Ash Street Amber.

    I can't imagining ruining beer with tomato juice, let alone Clamato. But there it is.
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    Thanks. The Audio Woo wiki is stellar. I especially liked this

    In particular for analog playback devices, avoid sharing a circuit with a large inductor like a fan, air conditioner or a particle accelerator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    I can't imagining ruining beer with tomato juice, let alone Clamato.
    Well it's buttwiper oops I mean Budweiser, so it's already ruined. When I first heard about their clam beer, had to check the calendar & see if the date was April 1.

    I'll hoist a fine brew - not Bud or any of its variants - to your honor next time I get a chance.
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    I enjoy "good" beer like anyone, but don't dis the lawnmower beer. When I come in from a hot August day mowing my lawn or sawing off tree branches, the last thing I want is to sip a heavy stout. I want a cold refreshing quaff beer. Just like as much as I prefer prime rib, I also want a hamburger now and then.
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    Beer should always adhere to the Reinheitsgebot. The German purity law of 1516. It basically says that beer is only to made from, well, beer parts. Barley, water, hops and yeast. I guess some nogoodnicks were getting jiggy with the ingredients even then with holiday spices and the like. The problem is that some things caused the beer to spoil prematurely and folks got sick. People drank beer in those days because the water wasn't always safe unless you made it into beer and kept it in the keg. So if you couldn't rely on the stuff in the keg that was a problem. Today there are alot of ways to get around the spoilage problem so people are putting a bunch of awful stuff in beer again. Which is a shame because good beer (whatever your definition) stands on it's own and doesn't need a friend like lime juice, coffee, hazel nuts or clams.
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    Oh, I love clammy pints! I guess clamato is much more popular in Canada.
    One of the most popular drinks here is the Ceasar, which is like a bloody mary but with clamato and some tobasco for extra kick.
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    Ok... But only because it has Tabasco and vodka in it.

    EDIT: Reminds me of a drink we would put noobs in the circle onto. The drinking equivalent of a Snipe hunt. We called it a Prairie Dog, as in, "Oh you've gotta have a Prairie Dog!". A double shot of Bacardi 151 with five dashes of Tabasco in it. It would have been easier to drink a shot of gasoline.
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    And Worcestershire. With salt rimmed glass.
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    Well I have always been of the opinion that if you don't like alcohol, just don't drink it. SO I always have my whiskey neat, and my beer free of other crap. So no whiskey sours or 7 and 7s. And no clam beer, and no shandy.

    My dad's philosophy was "never drink anything you can't see through."

    Beer should always adhere to the Reinheitsgebot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    SO I always have my whiskey neat, and my beer free of other crap.
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    Oh foo, and guitars should plug straight into amps, no tube screamers, no chorus, no echoplex, no nothing.
    lol, I think there is a literary term for this type of juxtaposition.

    Oddly enough, I don't care for clams or clam chowder, but I'm fine with clamato.
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    I love my pedals, but I do tend more toward plug and play I guess. But beer? Just this guys opinion I guess. Of course it happens to be shared by a large contingent for the last half millennia

    I considered doing a coffee house that specialized in peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Local, home made jams, Some exotic fruit preserves, house baked and artisan breads, alternative nut butters like cashews and hazel nuts. I was even thinking about doing things like deep frying and chocolate dipping. Milk and chocolate milk available. Of course some people would see this as a stupid complication to the classic PBJ. I guess I'm "that" guy when it comes to beer

    EDIT: Ok... Who wouldn't love an Espresso with a cashew butter and apricot jam sandwich, deep fried and half dipped in chocolate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    We called it a Prairie Dog, as in, "Oh you've gotta have a Prairie Dog!". A double shot of Bacardi 151 with five dashes of Tabasco in it. It would have been easier to drink a shot of gasoline.
    aka prairie fire, many variations. My introduction was the tequila type and I was quite shocked. Cartoon effect expression I'm sure.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairi..._(mixed_drink)
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    Ok, so it didn't come out of nowhere. But we made it our own

    Watching guys trying to drink these things was a gas. But of course, feeling a certain obligation, we each had to try one for ourselves. Swallowing went against every instinct and nerve reaction in your body and mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    I enjoy "good" beer like anyone, but don't dis the lawnmower beer. When I come in from a hot August day mowing my lawn or sawing off tree branches, the last thing I want is to sip a heavy stout. I want a cold refreshing quaff beer.
    True that too. My go-to yardwork beer used to be Schlitz, a lot cheaper than Bud. But I'm not mowing lawns now, the thermometer is headed for -11F tonight, and I toasted you with a good ol' standard Guinness a couple hours ago. When the hot weather returns I'll have to stock up a case of Coors or something like that.

    On Reinheitsgebot, I see no rice in any European beer, never mind German. Annhidesherbush I'm sure uses it to cheapen the ingredients list. In a Japanese beer, Asahi, Sapporo and like that, I can understand it because that's "native ingredients." But I have a hard time believing Budweiser is supposedly a copy of the authentic Budweis/Budvar because I seriously doubt the Czechs were ever slinging pails of rice, or corn for that matter, into their brewing vats.

    I can allow for some experimentation in the grain bill. For instance I got a nice six pak of He-Brew's rye beer a couple years ago and it was mighty good.

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    Schlitz? Real gusto in a great light beer?

    Scheafer. The one beer to have when you are having more than one?

    Carlings? "(Wheet whoot) Mabel, Black Label!"


    Rice and other grain is starch for the yeast to eat. I love Lambic beers. They contain wheat along with the barley malt. And true Lambics have no added brewers yeast, just the naturally occurring yeast from the caves. Doesn;t follow the purity law then, but oh so good. For that matter, plain old weiss beer I like a lot too. Weiss beer - wheat beer.
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    For quaff I like Rolling Rock. From the glass lines tanks of old Latrobe we tender this premium beer for your enjoyment, as a tribute to your good taste. It comes from the mountain springs to you. 33
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    I'll take a Labatts, thanks. Another thing the Canadians got right.

    But for jingles of yesteryear: Miller High Life the champagne of bottled beer...sparkling, flavorful, distinctive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    For quaff I like Rolling Rock. From the glass lines tanks of old Latrobe we tender this premium beer for your enjoyment, as a tribute to your good taste. It comes from the mountain springs to you. 33
    Rolling Rock another fave over here. Sometimes I can score a case of cans at a knock-down price from the local stupor market. Unfortunately RR has long left Latrobe and their glass lined tanks. Since 10-15 years ago they've been set up in Newark NJ, maybe in the old Rheingold brewery. Surprisingly they have maintained excellent quality, no sludgy swamp water from the Passaic river found its way in.

    33 - what did it mean? Back in the old days of newspapers, when a reporter reached the end of his typed story, set in a "33" as an indicator "that's all folks." 33 also a significant number to our Mason friends, amongst other things 33rd degree means "past basic training and onto the really deep stuff." And strangely enough there's a long-running beer from VietNam with the brand name "33." Could be any or none of these.

    What I remember from youth, is when I visited a home building job site (my father was a carpenter in the house building trade) I'd find the place littered with Rolling Rock cans, including 7 oz pony size. Hundreds of 'em! Apparently the workers - carps, masons, electricians, plumbers, painters - kept themselves cool and watered up by consuming scads of RR. It was normal back in the 60's to drink on the job. Shaefer, Rheingold & Ballantine Ale too, but the clear preference was Rolling Rock. All in the days before 5 cents for return cans - drat I could have made a fortune recycling them but no....

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    Since I sometimes get out on trails near woods and streams I occasionally find an old pull tab style can top. It seems like forever ago and they always look more like a quaint novelty than trashy litter now.
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    Um, I think the newspaper folks used 30. 33 remains a mystery.

    We used to drink VERY cheap Falstaff beer. The twist off bottle caps all had a rebus puzzle inside. Fun when you are drunk and high.

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    In the college days, cans all had the pull off tabs. You bent the tab around the ring of the next one to make a chain, then you could run a horizontal chain and drop vertical chains from each link to form a curtain. Of course it took a lot of beer to make up a curtain, but we were up to the task. A pretty common dorm/frat room decorative touch.

    For a brief time there were push tops. two round holes you popped in:
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    Push tops! Catering to the "shotgun" ilk. Smart really. No gluggy displacement at the single opening. Today the problem would be too many snowflakes dmaging a fingernail or getting scraped. Or worse, not having the strength to get to the beer
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    yeah well, in the real old days, we had to make a couple triangular holes in the lid with a church key.
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    I might have taken that for a Lucky Lager cap. I guess a few breweries ran the same campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    Beer should always adhere to the Reinheitsgebot. The German purity law of 1516. It basically says that beer is only to made from, well, beer parts. Barley, water, hops and yeast.
    Plus RICE, the USA variant from ~1950, which Bud and Miller (Inbev?) always ballyhoo as their 'natural" ingredients.

    Funny story they used to use cobalt salts to remove proteins from beer (can't be cloudy must be CLEAR!) and one US brewery was responsible for multiple cases of cobalt poisoning, looks like MS cant walk without a cane etc. similar to the effects many are actually looking for in cheap beer come to think of it...
    Now of course its "cold filtered" PR speak for TFF through NMWCO filters like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    Um, I think the newspaper folks used 30. 33 remains a mystery.
    I s'pose my brain may have drifted 10% with age...

    A couple more cheapies but goodies here in upstate NY, not so common anymore, Genesee and Utica Club. There's also the F X Matt brewery in western NY that has taken on the biz of brewing for other labels for instance Sam Adams, plus soft drink manufacturing. Matt promoted their own brand in the 70's at rock bottom prices like 99c per six pak. Piels was another popular brand. A couple more cheapo brands still around, some like & some don't, Iron City from Pittsburg, Milwaukee's Best & Old Milwaukee, PBR Pabst Blue Ribbon, Narangasset from the Boston area, Old Bohemian I think from Baltimore. And let's not leave out Blatz which I always liked for its name - which describes the internal gas production that beer inevitably brings on. Blatz in one end and then out the other!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickb View Post
    Thanks. The Audio Woo wiki is stellar. I especially liked this
    I agree! Many focus on the beer but its my fault for juxtaposing them...

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    I always felt beer and potato chips went well together, Blatz had the unfortunate quality of tasting like someone had dipped potato chips in the beer.

    Genesee is still around and available here in Michigan. I still buy Genny Cream Ale now and then. Long ago it was not in Michigan, but I did a lot of business in Ohio, and whenever I went to Toledo I would pick up a six pack of Genny Cream.

    I have a can of PBR in my fridge right now.

    Iron City was a great cheap beer label. But its greatest asset was every Xmas season they brought out Olde Frothingslosh - their beer with a spoof label. "The beer with the head on the bottom (When you turn it upside down)"

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    How come other brands don't use hot chicks like that?
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