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    Quote Originally Posted by daz View Post
    What do you guys make of this comment i got at a forum when asking for recommendations for chorus that doesn't make that clicking noise...
    Sounds like hogwash to me. "Buffered" could amount to nothing more than a small value capacitor from the output of the oscillator circuit to ground. But you shouldn't have to attempt modification to a pedal to make it work correctly. I have a BOSS and it doesn't tick.
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    Sweet! Enzo and I just simulposted and used the same derogative
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    That's the way that I would think of true bypass, but it's not the way that many designers are designing pedals today. Many of them do put the bypass after a buffer stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daz View Post
    What do you guys make of this comment i got at a forum when asking for recommendations for chorus that doesn't make that clicking noise...



    Is he correct do you think? I would think the opposite but then being boss are not TB and are probably the #1 pedal manufacturer of all time, maybe he's onto something? I suppose a buffered pedal might be the way to go, tho i always figured buffers may be more likely to affect tone than TB.
    I second Enzo that it’s bs. Lol. Have you considered an old Ibanez CS9? aa33bdf6-50cd-4280-8579-c8316ba493c5.jpeg Its analog. I’ve been using this one for over 35 years. Pretty sure it’s what Andy Summers used. Sounds like The Police. It isn’t true bypassed but most of my pedals are. I find a mix of buffered and tb works the best.
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    Many of them do put the bypass after a buffer stage.
    Then they are not telling the truth to call their product a true bypass unit.
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    The comment "The clicking sound that you detest is the nature of true bypass pedals esp at lower price points. Boss pedals are buffered, so there is no clicking sound." appears to me to be directed towards the click on switching, rather than a ticking clock noise. I think it's out of context to your actual problem. It's true that many TB pedals suffer switch clicking - often due to lack of anti-pop resistors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    Then they are not telling the truth to call their product a true bypass unit.
    Seriously now, you expect people selling stompboxes to tell the truth?

    The entire industry is based upon the idea that some guy in his basement can copy someone else's design and sell it to the unwary as a high priced "boutique" product.
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    I think the guy knew what i was talking about because i discussed the chorus' internal clock ticking even when the unit is off, so i don't think that would be confused with footswitch clicking. He just used a different word then me. But hey, maybe he dd mean that who knows. In any case i'm pickup up a old DOD analog FX64 tomorrow for cheap. Everything i read indicates it's free of all the issues and sounds very good to boot, which according to my ears using a number of youtube clips seems to be the case. But it's at a guitar center so if it does suck tone or tick or any of that it just goes back to them.
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    The clicking sound that you detest is the nature of true bypass pedals esp at lower price points. Boss pedals are buffered, so there is no clicking sound.
    may have some truth in it if it´s slightly edited or commented.


    The clicking sound that you detest is the nature of true bypass pedals esp at lower price points.
    IF made by unexperienced YTU graduates who have no clue.

    Boss pedals are buffered,
    which is quite irrelevant, but are designed and made by experienced and qualified people

    so there is no clicking sound.
    You bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daz View Post
    But since i discovered the clock ticking thing is there even when powering the chorus with it's own 9v battery with the PSU powering everything else, i realized it's got to go back. That ticking will obviously be there no matter what. Crappy design. I just hope they don't try and stick me with shipping for this POS.
    Did you buy it on eBay? They now have a return procedure which can make the seller pay for shipping charges both ways *if* eBay rules in your favor. This is for items that were defective or not as described.

    It can be tricky so I'd recommend calling eBay and have them talk you through it:
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    Good luck!

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    P.S. You might want to check to see if this is a known problem with your particular pedal... if they are all like that then eBay might rule in the seller's favor if he presents a strong defense.

    I was successful in returning a univibe-style pedal that added an ugly distortion to every note... the seller kept saying to run it in an FX loop and to keep the input signal down but the pedal was defective, plain and simple. Had I been forced to eat shipping both ways it would have cost me $25 for a $38 item... ouch!


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    I was testing a pedal at GC using the generic One Spot clone they handed me and it had a nasty click when bypassed. This was a used pedal shipped from a different location so I took it home anyway and there was absolutely no nasty click when I connected it to a real One Spot.

    BTW if an item bought and shipped from a different GC store is defective I make sure that the store mgr refunds me the shipping charge (if the item is not defective I expect to eat the shipping charge which has been around $11 for a pedal in recent times.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve A. View Post
    I was testing a pedal at GC using the generic One Spot clone they handed me and it had a nasty click when bypassed. This was a used pedal shipped from a different location so I took it home anyway and there was absolutely no nasty click when I connected it to a real One Spot.

    BTW if an item bought and shipped from a different GC store is defective I make sure that the store mgr refunds me the shipping charge (if the item is not defective I expect to eat the shipping charge which has been around $11 for a pedal in recent times.)

    Steve A.
    He made me do a video of the issue then he asked if i wanted a replacement. I told him no because i think it;s a design flaw. I had previously said i wanted a FULL refund including shipping both ways because it;s unusable. In so many words he seemed to be insinuating that because it was not defective but a design flaw he would not pay for return shipping. That based on my saying i think it's a design flaw. So i returned it and had to pay return shipping which is absolutely wrong. Therefore if and when i can leave feedback i will ream the bastage a new one. Don't think i will bother making a case of it but if i am not allowed to leave feedback i may. My account doesn't show the transaction tho so i can't leave feedback now, but i think in time it will. Not sure. In fact i haven't checked in days so i will look now.

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