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01-05-2008, 02:21 PM
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small packages via EMS I think takes a couple of days to a week from here to the 'states. Typically seems to be about 3-4 days. this is the EMS postage calculator: http://www.post.japanpost.jp/int/ems/index_en.html |
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01-05-2008, 03:45 PM
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Maybe you should have your covers made for you Possum, then you would have the level of quality control you are looking for. Seems you have alot of complaints about material, finish, and dimensions with suppliers, so just have them made yourself. Isn't too much to set up some deep drawn pressing for an application like that, and It seems you do enough pickups to order at 1000 units, which will be pretty affordable.
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01-06-2008, 12:47 PM
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That IS my ultimate goal, if you have gotten quotes from anyone you could pass along that would be helpful. Even at 1,000 units a lot of US companies just won't talk to you, they all want the big orders and big bucks, thats why they are all losing business to china, serves 'em right :-) Yes I am particular about parts, if you truly want to set yourself apart from everyone else the only way to do it is invent your own kinds of pickups and/or learn how size changes and materials affect tone and have stuff made that works for you. Otherwise you're a prisoner of the suppliers and can never get any kinds of tone except what those parts will allow. You can alter existing parts somewhat to change tonal designs but if you get alot of orders in, all that small handwork is lost time lost money....
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01-06-2008, 12:48 PM
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| overseas funds wiring....
I noticed in looking around that WAMU has free wiring of funds overseas with their free checking account, could be real useful.....
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01-06-2008, 05:02 PM
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Hi David, yep BOA is as crooked as the day is long
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01-09-2008, 04:08 AM
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Without resorting to the search tool, does anyone know how Tom Holmes goes about getting his covers and bobbins, etc., manufactured? I really like Andrew's covers and keepers, but he's not answering my e-mails and I believe I read he's not selling parts anymore. I've received samples from a couple of machinists for keepers - one very high quality but a little too expensive per part and the other sending a second batch of 25 for me to inspect with the promise of a couple hundred more if I like them. If it works out, I'll get my keepers that way. I'm not adverse to investing profits from my business for setup fees, but what little poking into it I've done mainly gets the cold shoulder since I'm not a huge concern. I thought Jim Wagner was going to start producing/selling parts at one point, but haven't heard much about it lately and that info doesn't seem to be on his new website. Anyone know the status of that? Anyone hear from Andrew lately? |
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01-09-2008, 04:17 AM
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01-09-2008, 05:42 AM
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I've heard that too, but don't know him and he doesnt answer emails, I kinda think he's not an internet savvy computer oriented type person maybe. His covers are the best I've seen, I wish I knew how he is doing them, what kind of press, I just bought a set of his covers off Ebay for way too much money to show to potential manufacturers. I just don't know how hard it would be to make them oneself or how to do it exactly, anyone got a clue?
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01-09-2008, 06:36 PM
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Yeah, Its super easy. You need two sets. One for the holes, and one for the fold. Get yourself a punch. Speed can probably help, so look for a fast punch. A hydrolic punch will work, but you'll spend more time polishing out the quirks that come with a slow punch. Also shop around for material and if you want to be "vintage" correct so be it. I'd go for the thinner material myself for better transparency. I'm not sure, but I think Lollar's covers are slightly thinner too. I suppose it would'nt hurt to ask him. | |
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01-09-2008, 10:13 PM
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I've read through some of the descriptions here on "deep drawing", but that seems to be full of it's own challenges too. Damned frustrating though having suppliers just shut down for one reason or another. I'm not a big fan of using covers to begin with, but if folks want them I'd like to provide the best quality I can. | |
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Dear, Everybody I'm still making price list and taking parts photos. It took lots of time more than I expected. Even I woke up 3:00 am every day and working hard... Please give me more time. I will make sure to send information to everybody soon. |
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01-10-2008, 02:21 AM
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Jump into it dude, it may take some time, shit you may have to walk away from it for a few months too but getting it off the ground and moving is the first step. | |
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01-10-2008, 03:43 AM
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Why would you punch before the fold? It would make sense to do it later and eliminate any distortion that could be caused by the fold.... Quote:
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01-10-2008, 05:06 AM
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Wade thanks for the card by the way. Easy? I think not, I remember Andy C. when he got his company into trying to make their own covers, I think he tore out all his hair in the process, I'm not so sure they are making their own covers or shopped them out of Korea or some place that already makes them. If you're making yours maybe you could take some photos of the die and your press, I'd be interested in learning to do this, but don't want to repeat my experience with the lathe project :-) and spend a bunch of money only to find out I can't really do what I want to do. BTW I got the Holmes covers from Ebay today in the mail, they are faultless, crisp edged, just super nice, totally flat on all sides. If Tom is making his own I would think anyone could also, but don't forget that Tom worked in that industry and knows that stuff inside and out.....me about all I know is how to use a garlic press real well :-) |
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01-13-2008, 01:20 AM
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I wonder where these guys are getting these aged covers from, no coppper preplating, I don't like the faked string marks but price isn't too horrible if a customer wanted to pay the price http://www.rsguitarworks.net/rsstore...=128&language= |
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RS aged covers look good but they're pricey. I have offered them as an option but no takers so far because of the extra $20-25 they add to the price of a humbucker. Haven't had much luck learning to do my own aging, can't seem to get it right.
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01-13-2008, 10:03 AM
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Yes but WHAT covers are they aging? No copper preplate, its not anything we have access to, maybe Montreaux will save the day........at least til I figure out how to make my own :-)
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01-13-2008, 11:10 AM
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I sometimes wonder what this fascination with stripes is. Some humbucker covers go beyond that stage where the striping gets worn off too. I prefer that look myself. In any case, not many people get it right as in this case. These R.S. covers started off nice until they did the stripes. They look fake and pretty amateur.
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01-13-2008, 01:02 PM
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Yeah I think the same, the stripes thing looks stupid and have never seen one done that looked real. Tom HOlmes does nice aged covers, basically a raw nickel silver cover, oxidized some and oxidized screw poles, what else do you really need? Go look on the Les Paul forum and look at the gallery, all those cool old guitars just have dull grey covers without the stripey thing, a classic look I really like....
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01-13-2008, 01:59 PM
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The stripey thing looks really crap when done with sandpaper. That's my personal favourite thing to laugh at with PAF repro's.
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01-13-2008, 09:48 PM
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01-13-2008, 10:04 PM
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I was talking with Sam Lee Guy earlier about knocking up a Heath Lobinson machine to make stlipes funny enough.
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Slowly but surely...I'm learning- I'm no expert by any means, but I got balls to try some different methods and such often going back to the saying " You gotta do it yourself" Honestly I've went to companys with $1,000's in hand and still got the run around B/s. Its within your grasp too if you want to do it. Hell, I have no problem buying them either, but often the quality being sold from the "Big 3" is less than standard and I think they are actually rejected from other companys....Who knows thats pure speculation but sometimes quality speaks for itself.... | |
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I'm a green horn with this topic Dave, and have been actually testing different ways to do things with less than perfect results. I've taken some ideals from around the net and have actually tryed different things and methods. Sometimes I feel really good that at least I'm trying different ideas and methods. I really can't reason spending money on nothing but learning right now. There is a few classes around town as well that I'm looking into.100% Made In America is a strong title. Pertaining to the thread, lets all root for the new guy- We all know getting perfect parts with any consistency has been a hair puller for all of us- There's room for everyone and certainly there could'nt be too many parts on the market. Check you P.m Dave.... | |
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If Montreux can come through here it'd be nice. I'd much rather focus on winding. I'd asked before about Jim Wagner, but no one has said if he's still planning to sell parts. Seems like one or two guys here know everybody, so? Last edited by SkinnyWire; 01-14-2008 at 01:33 PM. | |
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01-14-2008, 08:16 AM
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| P90 metal covers...
I'm looking for N/S or even brass (maybe) P90 soap bar covers if anyone has ever run across such a thing....
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Do you mean the mini humbucker undrilled covers? Are they the same size as soap bar covers????
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yeah but they are not soap bars, thats what I'm looking for, I wonder if the mini will fit a P90 bobbin....
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