GREAT Humbucker BAR Magnets

[JazzBluesRock]

Hi there..
I'm new here but i notice that a lot of artisan and craftsman write here and so .. i would to condivide with you my great glory.
I've studied chemical composition and magnetic features for years and now I think I've reproduced with great sucess an old '64 magnets.
For sure Here there are a lot of experts ..
Who want to try my magnet !?
It gives a soul also to the worst pickup .. also cheaper one..but naturally best is the winding best will be the result.. and if someone wants to believe me.. my pickups underpin very well the comparison with old vintage instruments like '61 SG Gibson and other.

Naturally I've spent a lot of energy and money for my research and so I can't give it like a present.. If someone is iterested only to try it please contact me .. If someone wants to start a commercial relationship .. better.
I think that 12 euros will be a good prices for everyone..

I've also a web site where I sell my handwound pickup but I don't want to spam, only to condivide my great glory..
this only to make you understand that I'm new here but I'm Not a beginner..
all the artists and luthiers who listened it says that i merit to be more recognized and that i have to write to some newspaper.. but no-one magazines answer till now. perhaps it don't interest to them- mah..

greetings from Italy ..

[salvarsan]

What are this magnet's Br, Hc, and BHmax?

If Google is correct, you would call them "rimanenza, coercivity, e energia prodotto".

Maybe Br=7000 Gauss, Hc=~500 Oersteds, BHmax=~1.4MGOe?

-drh

[kevinT]

Hi there..
I'm new here but i notice that a lot of artisan and craftsman write here and so .. i would to condivide with you my great glory.
I've studied chemical composition and magnetic features for years and now I think I've reproduced with great sucess an old '64 magnets...

What is the grade (is it Alnico?) of your magnets and what is the composition of the metals?

Where do you have your magnets made?

. and if someone wants to believe me.. my pickups underpin very well the comparison with old vintage instruments like '61 SG Gibson and other...

Achieving a 61 SG tone is not hard to do with the magnet types that are currently available? Just wondering why you think yours are so special.

. I think that 12 euros will be a good prices for everyone.. ..

12 euros for 1 magnet? That equates to about $24 per magnet. That's a bit pricey.

. I've also a web site where I sell my handwound pickup but I don't want to spam, ..

You're already spamming so you can go ahead and give us your web site URL.

[Spence]

For 1961 I would expect AlNiCo V. Very available and much cheaper than €12 a magnet.

I too have magical magnets, very cheap compared.

[JazzBluesRock]

Sorry Man,
chemichal composition and magnetic features like Br and other are reserved.
Naturally i don't make this work on line but in laboratory and in universityes becouse well-connected..
So the magnets is public but the formula NOT..
naturally i sell cocacola but no the formula and its secret ingredients..
scuse me again.

If you want to try it you have to believe me ..
N O - O N E has this magnet..
It is my own and produced thanks to my hard work behind it..
and if it's not enough i say that my pickups thanks to my magnets are the best now avaiable in the world-

[JazzBluesRock]

Ok .. I don't think that someone here studied magnetism and composition and chemical features in laboratory or in some university.. I just said that I was well connected and that i spent 3 years in research.. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSAND OF EUROS so 12 euros for a set of 2 magnets are not so much ..i think.
1) i don't say that my magnet is not an alnico V neither III .. i prefere to keep the secret.. but if you want to compare my magnet with yours there's no problem..
I'm sure that mine are better..
2) I wrote that i have my website.. in wich i sell handwound pickups.. and when i start some years ago I Look for the best magnet becouse i noticed that was the soul of the pickup..and so i buy magnets from all over the world.. all over ..
I spent so many euros not only for scientific research but also buying parts from everyone.. THEN i thought to make it by myself- becouse others were not good for what i look for .. that is a ORIGINAL VINTAGE sound.

[Electricdaveyboy]

Hello Salvarsam,
we all know that the secret of tone is not in THE MAGNET.
So tell us more........


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[Rosewood]

Free sample would solve all problems.

[madialex]

and if it's not enough i say that my pickups thanks to my magnets are the best now avaiable in the world-

Thats a big statement considering the company you are in here.


Umm, you got a website, anything at all other than your word?? They probably are great but I don't normally part with my money until I know that a place is an actual place, know what I mean?

[salvarsan]

Sorry Man,
chemichal composition and magnetic features like Br and other are reserved.

Isn't your market too small for any copy cats to steal your idea?

If you want people to pay you $18US for Alnico bar magnets when
they usually pay $2US in quantity, you must tell us more.

What is your web site URL?

-drh

[jason lollar]

Feel free to post your url this time.

Whats to keep someone from buying a magnet and then sending it off to have it vaporised and analysed for $70?

[madialex]

Hi Jason, did you go to Namm and if so how was it?

[Possum]

Yes please post your pickup making website.

As for composition, the book Blackguard Tele published the composition of 1950s magnets that they had analyzed and compared to new magnets. The old magnets differed in one important way, they had more IRON than new magnets do. That would definitely make the tone less bright. they analyzed alnico 5 and 3.....

[JazzBluesRock]

ook Men ..
So Tell me to who I have to send my first 2 magnets..
I really desire to entrust me to your tests and critics ..
Shipment cost will be naturally for the recipient ..
who want to receive a package from Italy !?
..I really trust in your democratic choose.
can the forum suggest someone really expert in vintage sound and in particular in Humbucker ?! ..
i've just made a lot of comparison between original vintage instruments and my guitars..some luthiers and some friends who still play help me naturally..

My goal is to give a great original vintage sound at a lower price..
an original vint.PU costs so much only becouse it is so old ?!.. i hope no

ANyway I look for someone who say me that he has a better magnet..
shipcost for me then !! and not only that.. hehehe

Thank you all ..

[salvarsan]

As for composition, the book Blackguard Tele published the composition of 1950s magnets that they had analyzed and compared to new magnets. The old magnets differed in one important way, they had more IRON than new magnets do. That would definitely make the tone less bright. they analyzed alnico 5 and 3.....

Yeh. The higher iron ones are 3,4,6.
I've amended the Pickupedia wiki to show %iron in the alnico chart.

http://www.pickupedia.info/Magnets#ALNICO_MAGNETS

-drh

[salvarsan]

At last, with the entirety of magnetic materials science thundering through my
every waking thought, I have deduced the Ultimate Solution for Vintage guitar
pickup magnets, and set about to create the Philosopher's Alloy, as it were.

After convincing a Vacuumschmeltze Gmbh executive in Hanau, Germany
to make a limited run of my magnum opus of magnetic alloy, I would make
my creation's exquisite magnificence available to the world at large.

As you may surmise from my handle, Salvarsan, there is substantial
arsenic in my Philospher's Alloy. (Did I mention that it will also cure syphillis?)

Actually, Vacuumschmeltze balked at the alloy specs and wouldn't budge
until I threatened to reveal photos of the exec in a compromising position
with a bisexual transgendered Thai boy toy to the board of directors,
...but that's another story. Naturally, the cost of suborning a company
shareholder is reflected in the price.

But, the magnets!

These are the last magnets you will ever buy or ever need to buy!
The last person to test them in pickups effused "Death Awesome!"
before he went off to chemotherapy. Others have praised them
with their dying breath.

Show your dedication to the higher Art Of Pickup Building!
Make the evolutionary step in the reincarnation of neo-vintage
guitar pickups.

Naturally, I don't post my web site or mailing address so as
not to seem a spammer.

If you need to contact me, you already know how.

What do you think such extraordinary magnets of Philosopher's Alloy
would cost?

Hah! Whatever you think, it's not enough. Add three zeroes for
a better estimate.

The price is non-negotiable.

Step right up! Who will be the first?

-You_know_who@youKnowWhere Dot Org

[kevinT]

Five requests for his website address and nothing...hmmm, I seem to recall myself recently mentioning something about blow hards talkin' trash?

I PM'd you my mailing address. If you're serious about your magnets...send me a bar magnet for a humbucker ...I will check it out. I'll even pass it on, when i'm finished, to dave or spence or someone else to check out.

[Ruel]

and if it's not enough i say that my pickups thanks to my magnets are the best now avaiable in the world-

Oh Boy! Here we go again! What makes you think that everybody goes for the kind of sound your pickups produce? Just what is actually vinatage sound? Is it really better than the sound of new pickups? Pardon my ignorance but I've read somewhere that not all vintage pickups sound great. In fact, a lot of them were trash. So please do tell, what makes your vintage sounding pickup better?

[GlennW]

All I can say is, "Cock-a-doodle-doo".

Jimi would say, "I see my rooster hat a'comin..."

[salvarsan]

Just what is actually vintage sound?

Ruel, please pay no attention to that gentleman's ravings.

Listen to _mine_ instead.

With my special arsenical permanent magnetic Philosopher's Alloy,
you too can lock in that vintage vibe but retain the definition, rich
fresh creamy smoothness, clarity, (and dare I say, minty freshness)
of the finest modern pickups, because you will actually be making
the *Finest* modern pickups in your life, what remains of it.

Yes, by building/using pickups with my arsenic-infused magnets, you
and your customers can sound EXACTLY like Stevie Ray Vaughn,
Jimi Hendrix, Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, Paul Kossoff, John Cippolina,
even Jerry Garcia, and numerous other DEAD guitarists.

-drh

[Possum]

I think the reason vintage magnets are higher in iron is the modern use of silicon as a deoxygenating ingredient. Silicon is commonly used in all casting these days and I think I noticed a higher amount of it in modern alnico and of course less iron. When you drop the iron content the magnets get brighter....

I don't know if they used silicon additives to keep porosity down in those days but from what I know, they probably didn't, and vintage magnets ARE more porous....

[black_labb]

from my limited research and knowledge, to get a pickup that sounds like other pickups, id probably use parts (like magnets) that are closest to the magnets in the pickup being copied. why not have someone do a batch of alnico magnets with more iron in them like the vintage ones. not create a whole new magnet to try to sound like the ones without being the same.


actually, i really just want to hear more about your magnets that blow everything else out of the water. id be tempted to try them for shits and giggles.

[JazzBluesRock]

from my limited research and knowledge, to get a pickup that sounds like other pickups, id probably use parts (like magnets) that are closest to the magnets in the pickup being copied. why not have someone do a batch of alnico magnets with more iron in them like the vintage ones. not create a whole new magnet to try to sound like the ones without being the same.

I propouse the forum suggest me someone who want to try my magnet choosing him among the vintage humbucker experts..
i send It for free but the recipient has to pay the ship cost..
Or i have also to pay .. !? I really don't want.
last time i sent entire set of pickups in the usa for a test and a critical rewiew but I still wait for the "expert" response..
Mr. X sells guitars but don't know how to misure a pickup exit.. when i suggest to put the higher one at the neck he ask me how to understand wich one.. this story to make u understand how lucky i'm.


then I can say that naturally my magnets are not a copy but a reproduction of an old '65 and that I make my personal alterations naturally.

[kevinT]

Bro,

see my PM. As i said, you made this claim and you should follow through to prove it.....in the USA, we have a saying.."Put your money where your mouth is."

It would cost you 2 or 3 euros, at most, to ship this magnet to me. I would cover the shipping cost to the next person. It only seems fair...why should any one of us put out any kind of money to substantiate your claim. If you want us to believe you, pay the amount to have it shipped to me. It's not that much.

You shouldn't start something you can't finish.

[JazzBluesRock]

Bro,

see my PM. As i said, you made this claim and you should follow through to prove it.....in the USA, we have a saying.."Put your money where your mouth is."

It would cost you 2 or 3 euros, at most, to ship this magnet to me. I would cover the shipping cost to the next person. It only seems fair...why should any one of us put out any kind of money to sustantiate your claim. If you want us to believe you, pay the amount to have it shipped to me. It's not that much.

You shouldn't start something you can't finish.

Ook Bro.. I Like it.

I start and I will finish this .. i send the magnets just today..
I've 63.5 bar and also 60 m bar for mini humbucker.. i will send the longer one.

to give a answer to who don't remember what is the real vintage sound and that say that I'm talking about shit I say him to buy a Sg '61 or an original vintage pickup of 350 euros and then to compare the sounds by playing only guitar and amplifier.. this is the vintage sound we lost..
My pickup sounds like the original and even has more deep and dinamic ..
but sfortunately are cheaper..

[Stan H]

So what was the website URL?

[JazzBluesRock]

hello again..
" Last year " i sent pickup to a luthier who says that he provide to put the pickup set i sent him on a guitar then he provide to register sound clips and theeen .. these clips arrives to someone who had a newspaper to receive a critical rewiew about my pickups. all this story only to receive his opinion.
the result : !?!?!?!
the man don't know how to measure the exit of a pickup and above all are quite 2 months that i wait also a simple mail from him.. i don't want to say the name of the guitar brand neither the luthiers that don't know how to measure a pickup but.. why I found only him !?!
i don't know how many mails i sent to the guitar magazines in entire europe and usa .. also australia!! but no-one answer.. no onee !! grrrrrr
why i can't receive a rewiew from their great experts !?
Naturally i receive some glory thanks to them but i think that also the newspaper gains something thanks to my product.. no !?

[Stan H]

Maybe they didn't like it? Seems to me that if you had the greatest humbucker bar magnet in the universe and sent out samples and contacted newspapers and magazines then people would be beating a path to your front door...you know, build a better mouse trap?

Oh, and what was that website URL again?

hello again..
" Last year " i sent pickup to a luthier who says that he provide to put the pickup set i sent him on a guitar then he provide to register sound clips and theeen .. these clips arrives to someone who had a newspaper to receive a critical rewiew about my pickups. all this story only to receive his opinion.
the result : !?!?!?!
the man don't know how to measure the exit of a pickup and above all are quite 2 months that i wait also a simple mail from him.. i don't want to say the name of the guitar brand neither the luthiers that don't know how to measure a pickup but.. why I found only him !?!
i don't know how many mails i sent to the guitar magazines in entire europe and usa .. also australia!! but no-one answer.. no onee !! grrrrrr
why i can't receive a rewiew from their great experts !?
Naturally i receive some glory thanks to them but i think that also the newspaper gains something thanks to my product.. no !?

[Sam Lee Guy]

Finalry, seems like someone else get to wear rooster hat!!! Velly big assumption that nobody test magnet before. Ask TV Jones, C-C pickups, etc... etc... Anyhoo, why test 1965 magnet?

[Electricdaveyboy]

Yes ,
I think most of us did check for those vintage magnets and
bought some old P-90 and PAF / PAT pickups
and checked the magnets tone ( as far as magnet could have a tone), degaused and recharged new magnets and
aged them..........wound the coils to special TPL ,checked for insulation thickness.........bought custom made screws ,bought tools and special steel aloys and machined bucker slugs.
COST ME FIVE YEARS OF MY LIVE !

And now there is somebody selling a magic magnet !

I will buy two !

[Spence]

I get my wire from a guy called Jim Morrison at Wirenetics and I get all my magnets from a guy called Wile E Coyote at a firm called Acme.

Why would I need anything else.

[salvarsan]

When someone asks for money in return for goods but
provides neither product details nor contact information,
it strongly suggests fraud.

I am reliably informed that the Moderator is threatening
to delete this entire thread if JazzBluesRock doesn't post
a Web URL in the near future.

-drh

[nhall]

Maybe 'Fool's Day' in Italy isn't in April.....

[kevinT]

he stated that he is going to send me a bar magnet...so we'll wait and see.

I've been burned before taking someone's word, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[mick]

Website is at fullofshit.com