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| What has happened to the ampwares site
everytime I try to go to get some scheme from the Fender Amp Field Guide today , I get redirected to some place saying that "ampwares.com expired on 08/09/2008 and is pending renewal or deletion" Oh Dearie me! I have a bunch of schemes I got previously from the site (but not all of them unfortunately) if anyone is interested, you can email me to see if I have got it. |
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I snagged the whole site about a month ago (really glad I did!) I have the whole site on my hard drive, and since it looks like ampwares is dead, the content is now backed up to another hd. I am working on getting hosting so that I can get it back out there. But! there are some things that are branded with ampwares.com and I don't want legal action so I am going to leave those out. Those are mostly scanned user manuals, etc. If anyone contests my putting schemos or amp facts out on the web, I'll laugh at them. Can you say common knowledge? I don't foresee anyone taking action against me, but if anyone knows differently then please let me know. My plan is to put the site out there as close to its current format as possible. Ultimately, though, I want to fix the stupid thing so that it looks like a web site from this century. I develop web sites for a living, and I can't have my name on that rambling piece of crap. The content is nice, but the site sucks. Short term, if you want any schemos or whatever from ampwares, I have them all. I will gladly send you anything you want, just PM me with your eMail addy and what you want. I'll make every effort to send you stuff as quickly as possible, just please understand I have a job, a family, and a lot of other things to do not to even mention playing guitar and building amps.
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Well thanks Cminor9 - I just may take you up on that offer. Cheers |
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I am just trying to find cheap hosting. Meanwhile, what is the FFG missing? Here are my ideas: I'd like to be able to search by circuit number. I'd also like to view amps a few different ways such as by model, line (as in tweed, brown, etc) and maybe year. The old FFG just allowed you to browse by model. I think it's also missing sound clips. How cool would it be to be able to *hear* the amps? I am wondering how much interest there would be in something like that? Also, how much interest there would be in contributing said clips? I'd like to have clips that are about a minute or less, that give good descriptive metadata like "Strat with neck pickup, amp volume on 8, guitar volume full on". Are there any features anyone else thinks would be nice to have in the site? I am not going to do a forum, since I am perfectly happy with this site. But anything else? I don't want to get carried away, since I do want to just get it back out there. But at the same time, and while I justify the cost of hosting, it's nice to have at least a wishlist.
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Sound bytes - you might have trouble tracking down clips of the originals - nice idea tho'. On what was missing I have no idea, but I found two indexes in relation to the FFG that seemed to not have consistently the same scheme links on them (Don't know if these work at the mo' or not). Maybe you can spot where they are? I know the 5G9 isn't of the top one http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/schematics.html http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/index.html Last edited by tubeswell; 08-19-2008 at 09:22 AM. |
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FWIW This was off the FFG contents link Bandmaster 5E7 Schematic 5E7 Chassis Layout 6G7 Schematic 6G7 Chassis Layout 6G7-A Schematic 6G7 Chassis Layout AB763 Schematic AB763 Chassis Layout Bandmaster Reverb AA1069 Schematic AA1069 Chassis Layout Bassman 5B6 Schameatic 5B6 Chassis Layout 5E6-A Schameatic 5E6-A Chassis Layout 5F6 Schameatic 5F6 Chassis Layout 5F6-A Schameatic 5F6-A Chassis Layout 6G6 Schameatic 6G6 Chassis Layout 6G6-A Schameatic 6G6-A Chassis Layout 6B6-B Schameatic 6G6-B Chassis Layout AA864 Schameatic AA864 Chassis Layout AB165 Schameatic AB165 Chassis Layout AA371 Schameatic AA371 Chassis Layout Bassman 100 Schematic Bassman 135 Schematic Bassman 10 Schematic Blues Jr. Schematic Bronco AB764 Schematic AB764 Chassis Layout Champ 5C1 Schematic 5C1 Chassis Layout 5E1 Schematic 5E1 Chassis Layout 5F1 Schematic 5F1 Chassis Layout AA764 Schematic AA764 Chassis Layout Super Champ Schematic Champ 12 Schematic Concert 6G12 Schematic 6G12 Chassis Layout 6G12-A Schematic 6G12-A Chassis Layout Deluxe 5C3 Schematic 5C3 Chassis Layout 5D3 Schematic 5D3 Chassis Layout 5E3 Schematic 5E3 Chassis Layout 6G3 Schematic 6G3 Chassis Layout AB763 Schematic AB763 Chassis Layout Deluxe Reverb AA763 Schematic AA763 Chassis Layout AB763 Schematic AB763 Chassis Layout 10-6-77 Schematic Harvard 5F10 Schematic 5F10 Chassis Layout Musicmaster Bass Schematic Princeton 5B2 Schematic 5C2 Schematic 5D2 Schematic 5D2 Chassis Layout 5E2 Schematic 5E2 Chassis Layout 5F2 Schematic 5F2 Chassis Layout 5F2-A Schematic 5F2-A Chassis Layout 6G2 Schematic 6G2 Chassis Layout AA964 Schematic AA964 Chassis Layout Princeton Reverb AA1164 Schematic AA1164 Chassis Layout Pro 5B5 Schematic 5C5 Schematic 5C5 Chassis Layout 5D5 Schematic 5C5 Chassis Layout 5E5 Schematic 5E5 Chassis Layout 5E5-A Schematic 5E5-A Chassis Layout 6G5 Schematic 6G5 Chassis Layout 6G5-A Schematic 6G5-A Chassis Layout AA763 Schematic AA763 Chassis Layout AB763 Schematic AB763 Chassis Layout Pro Reverb AA165 Schematic AA165 Chassis Layout AA1069 Schematic AA1069 Chassis Layout Pro Jr. Schematic Prosonic Schematic Quadreverb 100W Master Vol. Schematic 135W Ultralinear Schematic Reverb Unit 6G15 Schematic 6G15 Chassis Layout Silver Face Schematic Showman 6G14 Schematic 6G14 Chassis Layout Dual Showman Reverb 100W Master Vol. Schematic 135W Ultralinear Schematic Super 5B4 Chassis Layout 5C4 Schematic 5C4 Chassis Layout 5D4 Schematic 5D4 Chassis Layout 5E4-A Schematic 5E4-A Chassis Layout 5F4 Schematic 5F4 Chassis Layout 6G4 Schematic 6G4 Chassis Layout 6G4-A Schematic 6G4-A Chassis Layout Super Reverb AA763 Schematic AA763 Chassis Layout AB763 Schematic AB763 Chassis Layout AB568 Schematic AB568 Chassis Layout AA1069 Schematic AA1069 Chassis Layout AA270 Schematic AA270 Chassis Layout Super Six Reverb 100W Master Vol. Schematic 135W Ultralinear Schematic Super Twin Reverb Schematic Tremolux 5E9-A Schematic 5E9-A Chassis Layout 6G9 Schematic 6G9 Chassis Layout 6G9-A Schematic 6G9-A Chassis Layout AA763 Schematic AA763 Chassis Layout Twin 5C8 Schematic 5C8 Chassis Layout 5D8 Schematic 5D8 Chassis Layout 5E8-A Schematic 5E8-A Chassis Layout 5F8 Schematic 5F8 Chassis Layout 5F8-A Schematic 5F8-A Chassis Layout 6G8 Schematic 6G8 Chassis Layout 6G8-A Schematic 6G8-A Chassis Layout Twin Reverb AA763 Schematic AA763 Chassis Layout AA769 Schematic AA769 Chassis Layout AA270 Schematic AA270 Chassis Layout 100W Master Vol. Schematic 135W Ultralinear Schematic Vibrasonic 5G13 Schematic 5G13 Chassis Layout 6G13 Schematic 6G13 Chassis Layout Vibro Champ AA764 Schematic AA764 Chassis Layout Vibro King Schematic Vibrosonic Reverb 100W Master Vol. Schematic 135W Ultralinear Schematic Vibrolux 5E11 Schematic 5E11 Chassis Layout 5F11 Schematic 5F11 Chassis Layout 6G11 Schematic 6G11 Chassis Layout 5G11-A Schematic 6G11-A Chassis Layout Vibrolux Reverb AA270 Schematic AA270 Chassis Layout Vibroverb 6G16 Schematic 6G16 Chassis Layout AA763 Schematic AA763 Chassis Layout AB763 Schematic AB763 Chassis Layout This was off the FFG index Fender Tube Amps: 140 30 300 PS 400 PS Bass 75 Bandmaster Wide Panel Bandmaster Narrow Panel Bandmaster Brown Bandmaster Blonde Bandmaster Black Face Bandmaster Silver Face Bandmaster Bandmaster Reverb Bantam Bass Bassman TV Front Bassman Wide Panel Bassman Narrow Panel Bassman 6G6 Blonde Bassman 6G6-A Blonde Bassman Black Face Bassman Silver Face Bassman [50, 70] Super Bassman [100, 135] Bassman 10 Bassman 20 `59 Bassman Reissue Blues Deluxe Blues DeVille Blues Jr. Bronco Champ Champion 800 Two-Tone Champion 600 Wide Panel Champ Narrow Panel Champ Black Face Champ Black Face Vibro Champ Silver Face Champ Silver Face Vibro Champ Champ II Super Champ [Deluxe] Champ 12 Champ 25 Concert Brown Concert Black Face Concert Concert "II" Pro Tube Series Concert Deluxe Woodie Deluxe/Model 26 TV Front Deluxe Wide Panel Deluxe Narrow Panel Deluxe Brown Deluxe Black Face Deluxe Black Face Deluxe Reverb Silver Face Deluxe Reverb Deluxe Reverb II `65 Reissue Deluxe Reverb Dual Professional (Cst Shp) Harvard Hot Rod Deluxe Hot Rod DeVille Musicmaster Bass Princeton Woodie Princeton TV Front Princeton Wide Panel Princeton Narrow Panel Princeton Brown Princeton Black Face Princeton Black Face Princeton Reverb Silver Face Princeton Silver Face Princeton Reverb Princeton Reverb II Pro Woodie Professional TV Front Pro Wide Panel Pro Narrow Panel Pro Brown Pro Black Face Pro Black Face Pro Reverb Silver Face Pro Reverb Reissue Woodie Professional Pro Jr. Prosonic Prosonic Combo Prosonic Head Quadreverb RGP-1 Preamp RPW-1 Power Amp Rumble Bass (Custom Shop) Showman Blonde Showman Black Face Showman Silver Face Showman Dual Showman Reverb "Red Knob" Showman Studio Bass Super Dual Professional V-Front Super Wide Panel Super Narrow Panel Super Brown Super Black Face Super Reverb Silver Face Super Reverb Super 60, 112, 210 Pro Tube Series Super Super Six Reverb Super Twin Super Twin Super Twin Reverb Tonemaster (Custom Shop) Tremolux Narrow Panel Tremolux Blonde Tremolux Black Face Tremolux Twin Wide Panel Twin Narrow Panel Twin "Big Box" Tweed Twin Blonde Twin Black Face Twin Reverb Silver Face Twin Reverb Twin Reverb II "Red Knob" The Twin `65 Reissue Twin Reverb "Custom" Twin Vibrasonic Brown Vibrasonic Vibrosonic Reverb "Custom" Vibrasonic Vibro King (Custom Shop) Vibrolux Narrow Panel Vibrolux Brown Vibrolux Black Face Vibrolux Black Face Vibrolux Reverb Silver Face Vibrolux Reverb "Custom" Vibrolux Reverb Vibroverb Brown Vibroverb Black Face Vibroverb `63 Reissue Vibroverb Other Fender Stuff: K & F White Reverb Unit 60s Reverb Silver Face Reverb `63 Reissue Reverb Fender Vibratone Sunn Model T 300T |
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well, since the FFG is back online, I'll save my cash and time for my next amp project. Meanwhile, the FFG sits on a hard drive, waiting, just in case...
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| I sure hope so. I never got a chance to explore the site like I wanted to.
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Appears to be AWOL a the moment.
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| Senior Member | Yeah, it's laughable for someone to accuse me of "plagiarizing" a website that consisted of a bunch of photos culled from elsewhere on the web, schematics and board layouts designed by a private enterprise, and facts about the various amps made by said enterprise. If they didn't jump on the original FFG then they can't jump on me. If the photo owners want to pursue me, I'll gladly remove the offending photo. Most people have lives, though.
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Oh, and by the way...I am working on my version as we speak. I have hosting, some generously provided this for me. On my version of the site, I plan to host sound clips. So if you have some clips, I'll gladly put them out there. That's the one thing I always felt was missing from the FFG.
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Fender used to issue a collection of schematics and other tech materials to the service centers on CD-ROM every so often. The list of schematics you posted above is pretty much just the table of contents to those discs. FInd any Fender serive shop that has been around more than 4-5 years and they probably have one of those discs. SO even in the absence of an ampwares site, the collected materials are still around and available. Most of it anyway.
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About 10 years ago I had exchanged some emails with Mark about Fender schematics, offering to send him some of the new ones to add to his site. He said he pretty much wanted to stick to the old ones, up through the 70's so as to not get in trouble with Fender. At that time, Fender had no schematics on their US site but there were some new ones on one of their European sites. I already have all of the schematics from FFG on my hard drive so I was more interested in the other information about the specific models. I thought it was cool how Mark incorporated all of that stuff on his site- probably more comprehensive than many of the books on the subject. Steve Ahola | |
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Thanks Steve Ahola | |
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I thought the FFg was cool too. And if you want to resurrect a new improved version cminor9, I think that would be cool too, and I, for one, will be glad to make use of it. :-)
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I am working on it. Want to include sound clips and it is extensible so that other manufacturers can be included. Why limit it to Fenders? I'll let you all know when its done. It's about 50% done now, then I need to test it. One that happens, it's getting launched.
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How about putting cabinet plans on there too? (you could dask if you could use Scott Cole's) I found a couple of others (Tweed Champ, BF Princeton Reverb)
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Each page is going to have a datasheet first, then a media section with photos, schematics, and sounds. The cab plans could go in the photos section. Or maybe even with the schematics.
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Well, I am back now, and I bring gifts. Behold! http://ampedia.redbeartrading.com/index.php Check it out! Thanks to Dave at Red Bear Trading for the server space, too.
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I am new to this forum, just found this thread, tried to access your new site but get this message: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: strripos() in /home2/redbeart/public_html/ampedia/inc/security.php on line 36 Wonder if it is up at a different location? Thanks, Tom L. | |
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| Yeah i just got that too - Dang! - Looks like someone has hacked your site cminor9. Hope its not too much trouble to get it running again
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Ok, the Ampedia is back. http://ampedia.redbeartrading.com, as usual. We've moved servers. Before, page loads took too long. That problem should be corrected now. We are up and hopefully to stay for a very long time.
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For anyone who is interested, here is a mirror site of the old ffg: http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/ |
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