They elected Bill the first time, so when they elect him again, I'd have to say that is the opposite of fickle, that is loyal. Fickle is when you change your mond all the time. I like you today, I don't like you tomorrow, and I like you again the day after that. When I say loyal, I am not sending any message other than they stuck with the one they started with. Maybe you would prefer "consistent."
I wonder why the second CLinton voctory was a surprise to you. In the 1992 electrion, he beat the elder Bush - an incumbent president - 44M to 39M votes (370/168 electoral) That is not a squeaker. Then the second election in 1996, the GOP put up Bob Dole. In retrospect, I have come to like Dole, he really does have a sense of humor and is a pretty sharp guy, but in 1996 as a campaigner, he totally sucked. All we EVER saw was this grumpy old man Dole. It really was a weak campaign for Dole. CLinton beat him 47M to 39M. (379/159) A wider margin than the first one.
Frankly I would have been surprised if he lost that one. The smear campaign had not yet started, the economy was humming along in great shape, and while the national debt was still huge, the annual deficit had turned into a surplus. Why would the people bail? And facing a Republican COngress, he was not going to be able to make any large changes to anything either.
Sean Hannity would be proud. Oh please, if Obama wins the Fox news and other wings of the GOP will tell us the American public was duped and bought into charisma instead of substance. They'll tell us how the left wing biased media managed to paint McCain in such a way as to mislead the people about him. And they will immediately start to do anyting they can to undermine his success.All indicators point to another close race. If it is as close as 2000 and 2004, and Obama wins, democracts and most of the mainstream media will collectively proclaim that "the people have spoken". If McCain wins in a tight race, democrats and the media will lament "the republicans have stolen the election...again". And, I know this is going to probably draw some flames, but if McCain wins, I wouldn't want to be near Detroit, LA, or any American city with a history of large scale rioting.
As to stealing an election, the only reason the idea of stealing came up was the incredible cluster-fuck debacle in FLorida. COme on now, your boy won, but can you really say with a straight face that the FLorida election was handled in anything remotely resembling a professional manner? Unless we have another episode of similar malfeasance, no one is going to cry "steal."
Oh, and nice touch playing the fear card at the end there. Hannity at his best.
Yeah, me too. We'll have a couple more wars going on. The deficit and the national debt will get so large the numbers won't fit on the page.I'm seriously worried about the reaction if (McCain) wins.
I am sure you meant getting past the drama......the convention in Denver. When you get passed the drama and appeals to emotion, I'm not finding much to inspire me or make me reconsider my views. The message I'm hearing is, the grass really is greener on the other side, but don't ask for any specifics cuz we don't have any.
And by contrast, are you expecting large substantive informational presentations at the GOP convention?
You were a big Bush booster. REmember how much fun the right wing made of old Al Gore? They'd satirize him describing in endless dull detail how he would do this or that with funding and so on. And what did opponent George W. Bush offer? Nothing but slogans. it was always something like " I believe in the American people." "Gonna bring America back to the people." and so on. Zero substance. Not just my impression, satirists made fun of W over exaxctly that tendency. SO now when a Democrat engages in a little sloganeering, well, it is no longer OK.
Credit where due: Just prior to the 2000 election both Bush and Gore appeared briefly on Saturday Night Live, and both read scripts making fun of their own charicature foibles. I really enjoyed that both candidates had a sense of humor about themselves.
And I find that in this election. Obama has a great sense of humor and is sharp and conversant. McCain is a bit more stodgy, but he has appeared on the Jon Stewart Daily SHow numerous times and is not at all afraid to laugh at himself. We don't need leadership that takes itself too seriously. There is a difference between thinking a job is important and being full of yourself.
And the race? I think it is Obama's to lose. He has an edge in the polls, it has been pretty consistent, and he should win unless he stumbles hard. McCain can also stumble, but I don't see anything that would propel him well ahead, so I see it as a catch-up fight for him. I think it will be a relatively close election, but nothing like the squeaker in 2000.