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  • Gallien Krueger 2000 CPL

    Novice here. Looking into 80s rack preamp GK 2000 CPL. It has a single input, 2 switchable channels, stereo outputs, and built in compressor, reverb & chorus. It sounds killer. I'm trying to answer the question: where in the circuit does this amplifier turn from mono into stereo, and what exactly is the stereo effect/content - i.e. how are the left & right channels different.

    Attached are the preamp's schematics. As far as I can tell, the whole guitar signal chain (first page), incl. the compressor, up to and not including the FX is all mono. The signal lead labelled "D" feeds into a four circuits (2nd page): dry-lo, dry-hi, chorus, and reverb that all end in a kind of stereo mixer. Signal lead "E" feeds the reverb gate circuit.

    Observations/questions - correct me if I've misunderstood anything:
    1. I can't figure out the difference between dry-lo and dry-hi. Really curious about that split. Is that a frequency split or a volume split?
    2. Unless I'm missing something, the chorus seems to operate entirely in mono, which is different than i.e., the ADA MP1, a popular comparable preamp from the same era, where the original signal is split into 2, one gets mixed with the chorus signal, and the other as well but with its chorus component phase shifted by 180°. I couldn't tell if there's any phase shift on the L or R channels of the chorus on the 2000CPL.
    3. The reverb seems to be the only circuit doing actually doing something in stereo. It seems that the 6 taps of the MN3011 BBD chip (each providing a different timing window) are divided between the left and right channels. I am not an expert but maybe that gives an expanded stereo reverb image.
    4. But then later, in page 3, we can see both balanced and unbalanced sets of outputs have a mono/stereo switch each. I am not familiar with their symbol for switch, and can't really figure out what happens with either switch in mono mode.
    5. Beyond that, it seems the output circuits of either L/R channel are identical in both balanced/unbalanced circuits. I couldn't identify if there's any kind of phase shifting or other shenanigans going on.
    Any input is greatly appreciated!​

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    Attached is the user manual.
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    • #3
      Preamp IS Mono, same as guitar signal is, but Chorus effect has two different outputs, with varying phse difference, which is part of its unique sound.

      In a small foot pedal both are remixed into Mono, so some "flavour" is lost.

      In dedicated amplifiers, such as Roland JC120 and all of its copies, ( this one is also a "heir" ), they take the exttra effort to use separate amps for each output and dedicated separate speakers.

      Well worth it.

      Your preamp needs 2 amps (or a Stereo amp) and separaye seaker.

      Juan Manuel Fahey

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      • #4
        In addition to above, Hi Dry and Lo Dry originate at different points around U40 (hard to read,I think it's U40, top left of chorus page). This will also create phase differences between L and R.
        Originally posted by Enzo
        I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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