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  • #16
    It did.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by g1 View Post
      If C14 blew apart then it was the likely cause of the problem.
      I finally got the parts I needed ,and installed ,but when I try to get it to full voltage the bias is too high. I replaced R77 to 15K as suggested, and I only have it to 110VAC with variac ,and the bias is over 100MV already with the bias pots all the way down. Should I increase R77 ,or try something different ?

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      • #18
        Pull the power tubes and measure the DC voltage at pin 5 of power tube sockets.
        Originally posted by Enzo
        I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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        • #19
          Originally posted by g1 View Post
          Pull the power tubes and measure the DC voltage at pin 5 of power tube sockets.
          I have the board out. I think the low bias resistor ?R68 is wrong according to the schematic. It shows a 33k ,and I think this has a 22k. I'll get it back in ,and check voltages.

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          • #20
            WHy not check voltages first, to make sure resistor changing is what we need?
            Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by g1 View Post
              Pull the power tubes and measure the DC voltage at pin 5 of power tube sockets.
              -46Vdc

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              • #22
                Originally posted by gtrplayr1976 View Post
                I replaced R77 to 15K as suggested
                Keep us in the loop. Where was this suggested and for what reason?
                Originally posted by Enzo
                I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Enzo View Post
                  WHy not check voltages first, to make sure resistor changing is what we need?

                  Yes sir. I changed it back to original ,and checking again. This appears to be a newer issue that already had some changes made. I can only find a schematic up to issue 7. I believe this is 10.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by g1 View Post
                    Keep us in the loop. Where was this suggested and for what reason?

                    I read it on some other places about bias issues with these. Of course I believe these were with the older boards. I changed it back to 10k.

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                    • #25
                      So how are you measuring the idle current of the tubes?
                      Did you have the pot set so there was the most negative voltage at pin 5 of power tubes?
                      Originally posted by Enzo
                      I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by g1 View Post
                        So how are you measuring the idle current of the tubes?
                        Did you have the pot set so there was the most negative voltage at pin 5 of power tubes?
                        I have a Weber bias probe connected to each set of tubes ,and a DMM connected to the pins on the back of the amp head. The pots are currently at zero position.

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                        • #27
                          The pins at the back of the head are each for a pair of tubes with the 100W head. So if it said 100mV, that would be 50mA per tube.
                          Was that as low as it could go?
                          Originally posted by Enzo
                          I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by g1 View Post
                            The pins at the back of the head are each for a pair of tubes with the 100W head. So if it said 100mV, that would be 50mA per tube.
                            Was that as low as it could go?
                            Yes it was ,but I changed the bias resistor back to 10K ,and both sides are at 81ma per side with pots still at zero. I think if I increase R68 to 33k I might get some adjustment room?
                            Last edited by gtrplayr1976; 04-16-2017, 08:02 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Not sure what you mean by pots at 'zero', I assume that is wherever gives you lowest idle current?
                              Originally posted by Enzo
                              I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by g1 View Post
                                Not sure what you mean by pots at 'zero', I assume that is wherever gives you lowest idle current?
                                The bias adjustment pots are bottomed out. I can only go up in current. I noticed after leaving it on for a bit the bias crept up about 2-3 mA.

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