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  • Enzo
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    whenever i knock on the chassis...it pops VERY loudly... Unfortunately, i don't have fantastic equipment to check some of these things.
    Here is what you do, go get some takeout from a Chinese restaurant. Save the wooden chopsticks. Now use one of them to tap on the parts and connections on the board, looking for one or more that react.

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  • Ceredox
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    I checked resistors 301 and 302 and low and behold they were both open. I replaced them and I now have sound! BUT there is hum and whenever i knock on the chassis or really anywhere on it, it pops VERY loudly. It also doesn't seem to be as loud as i would expect. I find it unlikely that there were two problems, originally but its possible. So i don't know whats going on. Does anyone know what would cause a pop like that? Unfortunately, i don't have fantastic equipment to check some of these things. I have a function generator, scope and a multimeter.

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  • Ceredox
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    Well, Enzo it looks like you answered this same issue many years ago haha. Ill check out those and see what i find.







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  • Ceredox
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    Havent had much time to work on this but did a little last night. I'm not sure why i didn't notice this before (Maybe because i had a light bright shining over the preamp tubes) but the heater for V1 and V2 isn't lighting up. The input signal goes through V1 before anything else, so the input signal isn't even making it through that tube and stopping dead there. Not sure how this happened from me cleaning the pots but ill have to find out where that heater voltage comes from.

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  • Enzo
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    It is VERY similar to the 5150.

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  • Ceredox
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    So that was a goof on my end. Since i had taken the board out a bunch of times, i didnt have it screwed back in and grounded. So no more of that buzzing when touched. BUT my original issue is still there. No sound but when i tap on the chassis or ribbon cables anywhere, it pops like crazy. Not like its sound coming out but a loud popping sound. I'm not a big fan of this schematic. I have a 2khz sine wave running through it right now but i cant even find the stupid input on the schematic to probe around and check anything.

    Edit: I found another schematic that actually labeled things and i found them. Ill troubleshoot further.
    Last edited by Ceredox; 07-02-2020, 05:35 AM.

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  • Pedro Vecino
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    The amp must have ground connections through some of the screws that hold the board to the chassis.

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  • Mick Bailey
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    With the chassis buzzing when touched it does look like you have a grounding issue. Meter from the guitar plug barrel to the chassis and see if there's continuity. Note that the schematic shows two ground symbols - chassis ground and signal ground. It looks to me that the preamp PCB connects the signal ground to the chassis ground at the input sockets.

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  • Ceredox
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    Originally posted by tedmich View Post
    Ceredox, what exactly did you use to clean the pots? Not WD40 right ?
    I used a light amount of Isopropyl alcohol, I remember correctly. But the pots seem to be working correctly.

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  • tedmich
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    Ceredox, what exactly did you use to clean the pots? Not WD40 right ?

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  • Ceredox
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    Originally posted by Mick Bailey View Post
    Maybe the pot wiper is losing continuity and leaving an open connection to the next stage. If you play an audio source through the input are you getting anything at all mixed in with the popping or hum when moving the MV pot - even very briefly?

    I like Jack Darr's book (available as a free pdf) as a starting point for amp repair - it's old but the main thing is the philosophy. Jack Darr was pretty good at applying techniques across a broad range of electronic devices and his basis for many books was the approach and philosophy, rather than the specific equipment. An emphasis on technique.
    I did remove the pot and check it functionality. It seems to sweep just fine. I also checked the other pots that I cleaned and they all seem to function fine. I get absolutely nothing Out of it when i put a signal through it. Just loud popping if I'm not careful and buzzing if i touch the chassis (as if im touching an unplugged guitar cable. Would that imply a grounding issue? I did check the ribbon cables and they have continuity, took a look at the solder joints and they seem okay. I'm going to run a function generator through it tonight and start probing around. This has to be something stupid and its driving me crazy.

    I will definitely check out that book! Thanks

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  • Mick Bailey
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    Maybe the pot wiper is losing continuity and leaving an open connection to the next stage. If you play an audio source through the input are you getting anything at all mixed in with the popping or hum when moving the MV pot - even very briefly?

    I like Jack Darr's book (available as a free pdf) as a starting point for amp repair - it's old but the main thing is the philosophy. Jack Darr was pretty good at applying techniques across a broad range of electronic devices and his basis for many books was the approach and philosophy, rather than the specific equipment. An emphasis on technique.

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  • nickb
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    What glebert said^^^^

    You can check the operation of the master volume pot from wiper one turning slowly looking for anomalies and also from end to end using the ohms range of your meter.

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  • glebert
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    The fact you get popping when you touch the master volume knob would make that a prime suspect of mine.

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  • Ceredox
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    Thanks for the advice. I've checked the ribbon cable connector positions many times, since ive taken the board in and out a few times since ive been troubleshoooting this. BUT i never actually checked the ribbon cable continuity. They are really the only other things that were disturbed when i took the board out. When i get home from work, ill check those and the solder ocnnections of the pins the attach to. Ill let you know what i find!

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