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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by g1 View Post

    Are those 2 wires pinched to the chassis anywhere? Can you post a picture of the switch pointing to where those 2 wires are connected?
    They are not pinched to the chassis.

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

    R14/15 with C106/112 one leg lifted now read 3.3k in both positions of ultra lo switch.
    Is it possible that these two(2) caps could be left out of circuit and amp operate correctly?

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by vintagekiki View Post
    R14(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C106 (6.8u)
    R15(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C112 (6.8u)
    Check that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered correctly (+ caps C106, C112)
    Measurements indicate that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered incorrectly (to gnd), or the caps C106, C112 is bad.

    Caps C106, C112 are located on the PCB below the ultra lo sw.
    R202(0.55k) OK,
    R203(6.25k) OK
    R14/R15(3.08k) switching ultra lo OK
    R14/15 with C106/112 one leg lifted now read 3.3k in both positions of ultra lo switch.

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by vintagekiki View Post
    R14(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C106 (6.8u)
    R15(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C112 (6.8u)
    Check that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered correctly (+ caps C106, C112)
    Measurements indicate that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered incorrectly (to gnd), or the caps C106, C112 is bad.

    Caps C106, C112 are located on the PCB below the ultra lo sw.
    R202(0.55k) OK,
    R203(6.25k) OK
    R14/R15(3.08k) switching ultra lo OK
    C106(0.208 nf), C112(0.198 nf), black probe to lifted leg - side, red probe to + solder joint on board, cap test on dmm.

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  • g1
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

    Wire from ultra low switch is soldered to + caps point C106/R107 and point C112/R108.
    Are those 2 wires pinched to the chassis anywhere? Can you post a picture of the switch pointing to where those 2 wires are connected?

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by vintagekiki View Post
    Wires show continuity, check that are soldered where should (on schematic).
    Is the wire from ultra lo sw soldered to +caps point C106/R107 and point C112/R108, or soldered to -caps C106, C112 (gnd)
    Wire from ultra low switch is soldered to + caps point C106/R107 and point C112/R108.

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  • vintagekiki
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    Correction
    mark C107 should be replaced with mark C112 .

  • g1
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    Please note that there's an error on the layout drawing for the polarity of C106 and C112. See red markings on this pic for corrections. The actual circuit board is probably marked correctly.

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    Last edited by g1; 05-14-2021, 10:37 PM. Reason: fixed error mentioned in comment

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  • vintagekiki
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post
    Wires on ultra lo switch (4 on schematic), all show continuity. Will post measurements for c106/112 shortly. Have to lift one leg if each cap to measure correctly.
    Wires show continuity, check that are soldered where should (on schematic).
    Is the wire from ultra lo sw soldered to +caps point C106/R107 and point C112/R108, or soldered to -caps C106, C112 (gnd)

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by vintagekiki View Post
    R14(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C106 (6.8u)
    R15(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C112 (6.8u)
    Check that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered correctly (+ caps C106, C112)
    Measurements indicate that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered incorrectly (to gnd), or the caps C106, C112 is bad.

    Caps C106, C112 are located on the PCB below the ultra lo sw.
    R202(0.55k) OK,
    R203(6.25k) OK
    R14/R15(3.08k) switching ultra lo OK
    Wires on ultra lo switch (4 on schematic), all show continuity. Will post measurements for c106/112 shortly. Have to lift one leg if each cap to measure correctly.

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  • vintagekiki
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post
    R14(0.8 ohms), R15(0.8ohms), R202(0.55k), R203(6.25k). R14/R15(3.08k) switching ultra lo.
    R14(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C106 (6.8u)
    R15(0.8 ohms) check (replace) C112 (6.8u)
    Check that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered correctly (+ caps C106, C112)
    Measurements indicate that the wire from ultra lo sw is soldered incorrectly (to gnd), or the caps C106, C112 is bad.

    Caps C106, C112 are located on the PCB below the ultra lo sw.
    R202(0.55k) OK,
    R203(6.25k) OK
    R14/R15(3.08k) switching ultra lo OK

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by g1 View Post

    Is that one lug with no wire that's bent upward touching anything?

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    No, not touching anything.

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  • g1
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

    Photos of ultra lo switch
    Is that one lug with no wire that's bent upward touching anything?

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by g1 View Post

    More a danger to the tubes V1 & V2. You need to find and deal with the problem. Can you get in close enough to the switch to post some pictures?
    Also, I think you still have the issue where the heater voltage on the preamp tubes is lower than it is on the power tubes. (5.6VAC vs 6.3V). It should be the same for all tubes.
    Photos of ultra lo switch

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  • g1
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

    Strong signal now thru speaker output. Greatly appreciate all the help. Is there any risk of blowing resistors if I switch ultra lo?
    More a danger to the tubes V1 & V2. You need to find and deal with the problem. Can you get in close enough to the switch to post some pictures?
    Also, I think you still have the issue where the heater voltage on the preamp tubes is lower than it is on the power tubes. (5.6VAC vs 6.3V). It should be the same for all tubes.

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