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Fender Bassman 50 Blackface AA165 - Bias Problems

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  • #16
    Originally posted by g1 View Post
    As it is a new OT I suspect the phasing is reversed, causing the oscillation.
    As in blue and brown are reversed at the plates?

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    • #17
      Quite possibly, yes. Swap them and see if it takes care of your problem.
      "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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      • #18
        Originally posted by g1 View Post
        As it is a new OT I suspect the phasing is reversed, causing the oscillation.
        This is a possibility, but in my experience oscillation caused by inverse OT phase is typically an audible frequency.
        - Own Opinions Only -

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        • #19
          Hey Folks

          Reversing the brown and blue at the plates did the trick! Amp is working now. I will put in a matched pair and re bias and calc the plate dissipation, and report back.

          New question on NFB. The new OT has 3 secondary taps, 4, 8 and 16 ohm. The NFB is connected to the 8 ohm. Wondering if this is correct or if it should be attached to the 16 ohm tap

          Thank you all for the great help!

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          • #20
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            • #21
              Originally posted by misterc57 View Post
              New question on NFB. The new OT has 3 secondary taps, 4, 8 and 16 ohm. The NFB is connected to the 8 ohm. Wondering if this is correct or if it should be attached to the 16 ohm tap
              Original circuit uses the 4 Ohm tap.
              Connecting to a higher impedance tap increases NFB and can cause instability.

              - Own Opinions Only -

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
                Original circuit uses the 4 Ohm tap.Connecting to a higher impedance tap increases NFB and can cause instability.
                And... I'll add a comment directed at the OP.
                In case it's not clear, the feedback connection should not be changed when you connect the speakers to different secondary taps. In the case of your amp, just leave it connected to the 4 Ohm tap.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post

                  This is a possibility, but in my experience oscillation caused by inverse OT phase is typically an audible frequency.
                  Originally that was my experience as well. But occasionally over the years there has been HF causing 'crackling' in the audio, LF or midrange oscillation, hum, or other just odd symptoms due to various levels of instability. Enough that if there is any evidence of OT re-wiring or replacement, verifying phasing is one of the first suggestions.
                  Originally posted by Enzo
                  I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                  • #24
                    I will connect NFB to the 4 ohm tap.

                    I had been using a dummy load (which is why the oscillation was not audible to me).

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