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I know folks like keepin stuff secret - but I figured Id ask...
So Ive been winding for a little over a year now and have a pretty good grasp at the basics. I mean, I get a good tone ya know? The folks whove bought my pickups really dig em.
Anyway. I took a different approach than most I think. Instead of being a scientist a la "Possum" (by the way Dave, how the hell are you)
What I did was find materials, and go at it. I do a bit of research etc on the science of it but Im no expert.
So do you guys think the tolerances of the wire back then were so different that sometimes a bridge pickup could be 41 gauge or 43 gauge when the spool was 42?
Also, I see different readings on pickups etc, especially on Fender's site. They seem to have inductance all over the place. For instance, their alnico 3 52 reissue Tele pickup, is wound to 7.2k - and only 3.27 Henries.
I dont know about you, but no matter what winding pattern I use, or tension on the wire, I hit around 3.8 henries at 7k. With the plate on there its 4.1 or so.
Ive also been noticing that I dont dig the 7k tone so much lately. I use MWS min nom PE - and magnetic hold magnets .197" (Shea is the man)
I wind some low output, some higher. And its like it "misses" the area of the sound I have in mind. They sound good dont get me wrong, but lower they sound too bright or thin, and higher they lose the twang and that spanky bass, and when I try to shoot for the middle-ground, its not there. Its like Im on a highway going parralell to the one I want to be on tone-wise...
So without changing the dimensions of the pickup, like the wire area, or the magnet length, or the baseplate, wire has to be the way to change the inductance correct? Ive wound some 43 gauge tele bridges that sound good, but its not the right sound.
Does one get nom-max wire? Double insulated PE?
And can winding pattern actually significantly affect inductance?
Ive been experimenting with patterns lately, and honestly - I think an even pattern works best... but what do I know. I dont think it changes things a ton. I mean I hear subtle differences in patterns, but nothing I liked. And obviously back in the 50s, winders just sat there going back and forth trying to be neat, day in and day out...
By the way, do you guys that use MWS prefer it most of the time? Or do you like other wire vendors as well? Elektrisola, wirenetics etc...
Just thinking of ideas to get different tones...
So Ive been winding for a little over a year now and have a pretty good grasp at the basics. I mean, I get a good tone ya know? The folks whove bought my pickups really dig em.
Anyway. I took a different approach than most I think. Instead of being a scientist a la "Possum" (by the way Dave, how the hell are you)
What I did was find materials, and go at it. I do a bit of research etc on the science of it but Im no expert.
So do you guys think the tolerances of the wire back then were so different that sometimes a bridge pickup could be 41 gauge or 43 gauge when the spool was 42?
Also, I see different readings on pickups etc, especially on Fender's site. They seem to have inductance all over the place. For instance, their alnico 3 52 reissue Tele pickup, is wound to 7.2k - and only 3.27 Henries.
I dont know about you, but no matter what winding pattern I use, or tension on the wire, I hit around 3.8 henries at 7k. With the plate on there its 4.1 or so.
Ive also been noticing that I dont dig the 7k tone so much lately. I use MWS min nom PE - and magnetic hold magnets .197" (Shea is the man)
I wind some low output, some higher. And its like it "misses" the area of the sound I have in mind. They sound good dont get me wrong, but lower they sound too bright or thin, and higher they lose the twang and that spanky bass, and when I try to shoot for the middle-ground, its not there. Its like Im on a highway going parralell to the one I want to be on tone-wise...
So without changing the dimensions of the pickup, like the wire area, or the magnet length, or the baseplate, wire has to be the way to change the inductance correct? Ive wound some 43 gauge tele bridges that sound good, but its not the right sound.
Does one get nom-max wire? Double insulated PE?
And can winding pattern actually significantly affect inductance?
Ive been experimenting with patterns lately, and honestly - I think an even pattern works best... but what do I know. I dont think it changes things a ton. I mean I hear subtle differences in patterns, but nothing I liked. And obviously back in the 50s, winders just sat there going back and forth trying to be neat, day in and day out...
By the way, do you guys that use MWS prefer it most of the time? Or do you like other wire vendors as well? Elektrisola, wirenetics etc...
Just thinking of ideas to get different tones...
Broadcaster pickups are too rare to kill, if you rip it up you'll never be able to listen to it as it was. I'd love to tear my early patents apart but will only happen if they die.
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