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  • #16
    Originally posted by SkinnyWire View Post
    There you go. Still, Sens charges considerably less per bar than AllStar so ...
    Allstar are middlemen, but you pay for service.

    If I need just a few of something I order from them, but I cant justify paying 2-3 times the cost of the magnet when I buy 1500 magnets. If I buy from Allstar is $4500, if I buy from sens is $1500. I'd like to support the american company, but I just cant. I'd be an idiot to throw away 3 grand.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by belwar View Post
      Allstar are middlemen, but you pay for service.

      If I need just a few of something I order from them, but I cant justify paying 2-3 times the cost of the magnet when I buy 1500 magnets. If I buy from Allstar is $4500, if I buy from sens is $1500. I'd like to support the american company, but I just cant. I'd be an idiot to throw away 3 grand.
      right

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      • #18
        Holy crap, that's a huge difference. I don't buy that many at once. I'm just making my own pickups for my brother and I at the moment. We got tired of paying for Seymours retirement. I wanted the Alnico 8's because the ceramics were too harsh without a ton of wire on the bobbin. I haven't quite figured out the ceramics yet. I can't get the winding right but I haven't tried that hard either. I have heard the 8's are less harsh.

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        • #19
          Belwar you really should speak to Neomax about prices as you costs for A2 and A5 bars costs would be cut dramatically! I won't post the prices on the forum but if you want a run down pm me and I'll let you know.

          Their A8 bars depending on which grade you want are less than $3 per pcs. The A8 is the most expensive of all the Alnico bars even more than the most powerful LNGT72 (A9).

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SkinnyWire View Post
            There you go. Still, Sens charges considerably less per bar than AllStar so ...
            Like 2$ each for a tiny batch(part of a larger mixed order)... and no minimum order quantity. Shipping from China is a bit expensive though....

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jedd View Post
              I wanted the Alnico 8's because the ceramics were too harsh without a ton of wire on the bobbin.
              Originally posted by Jedd View Post
              I have heard the 8's are less harsh.
              Then A8 might be exactly what you want. I'm falling more and more in love with the sound of A8 instead of ceramics.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SJE View Post
                Belwar you really should speak to Neomax about prices as you costs for A2 and A5 bars costs would be cut dramatically! I won't post the prices on the forum but if you want a run down pm me and I'll let you know.

                Their A8 bars depending on which grade you want are less than $3 per pcs. The A8 is the most expensive of all the Alnico bars even more than the most powerful LNGT72 (A9).
                Again the question is how do Neomax magnets sound?
                People seem to like the sensmag bars but not be so wild about their Fendre style round mags.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Peter Naglitsch View Post
                  Like 2$ each for a tiny batch(part of a larger mixed order)... and no minimum order quantity. Shipping from China is a bit expensive though....
                  Yea. The first time was a bit scary. Shipping for 400 bars of various grade/size was about $100, as I recall. It was still $100-$200 cheaper overall than the quote I got for the same order from All Star. Rob has always been good to me and calls ever now and again to see if I need any magnets. If it was just $20-$30 bucks difference I'd support the US business, but when the gap is as big as it is it's difficult to make that decision - especially since they appear to be the same product.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by David King View Post
                    Again the question is how do Neomax magnets sound?
                    People seem to like the sensmag bars but not be so wild about their Fendre style round mags.
                    Well you can listen to a Neomax A8 in my blindtest thread - it's the first pickup in each sample. Then a Neomax A9 is the 3rd sample but I understand this isn't of interest to many people.

                    I've used several so far and can't fault any of them. I personally think this magnet sounding different thing is down to companies selling 'Alnico 5' magnet when there is actually 4 different grades of that magnet, the 'Alnico 8' has 3 different grades etc.

                    I will be doing another blind test for my neck pickups later today in which the pickups use 2 other varieties from Neomax.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Jedd View Post
                      Holy crap, that's a huge difference. I don't buy that many at once. I'm just making my own pickups for my brother and I at the moment. We got tired of paying for Seymours retirement. I wanted the Alnico 8's because the ceramics were too harsh without a ton of wire on the bobbin. I haven't quite figured out the ceramics yet. I can't get the winding right but I haven't tried that hard either. I have heard the 8's are less harsh.
                      You may want to try the C5 Ceramics instead of the C8 ceramics you have also...

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                      • #26
                        My experience is that A8s are smooth all the way across the frequency spectrum. I'm still trying to pull more high end out of a current A8 pickup design I'm working on.
                        www.guitarforcepickups.com

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