Guitar Jones anyone having any luck at all with this guy?

[Zhangliqun]

Not good news. I've been reluctant to place another order lately with them because of long delays. They have a lot of good stuff and it will be difficult to find it elsewhere.

[David Schwab]

Not good news. I've been reluctant to place another order lately with them because of long delays. They have a lot of good stuff and it will be difficult to find it elsewhere.

Well they have a lot of good stuff in their (WSC) catalog... they never have anything I want in stock.

[Zhangliqun]

One other tidbit I found out the hard way -- the Guitar Jones 50mm covers and Tele rhythm covers are very tonally transparent so I assumed their 49.2mm's were too......NOT!!!

Anyone have a good source for tonally transparent (I assume nickel-silver) covers of all spacings?

[Possum]

Zheesh.....

There's no such thing as a tonally transparent metal cover. You need to get a good LCR meter and use it to actually see what any kind of metal ferrous or nonferrous does when put over or next to a coil. there are some covers that don't interfere that much but they are like dynasonic covers with open top and a gap on the side so the cover is open at the top and like an open loop surrounding the pickup. Nickel silver lets more of the tone through. Thing is though AllParts used to have nickel silver tele covers and some others but now you ask for nickel sivler and they send you plated brass, they are so f*cking stupid they have no idea what they are selling you. I recently got some closed top bucker covers from AllParts when I asked for nickel silver and complained when they sent plated brass, I complained and they said those ARE nickel silver, so I sanded down the top of the cover and took a photo of the obvious thick brass underneath, they never answered my email on that one,, they don't care they got my money....

[Spence]

These guys have only just graduated from making the tea. You shouldn't expect them to know anything about the subject because they are all being groomed for managerial roles. This is a 'best working practise' fast tracking system first devized in the UK when the wonderful Mrs Thatcher closed down all our industries and opened the country to invasion by MacDonalds.

Want to know the specifics of a humbucker cover? Dunno but do ya want fries with that?

here's my allparts rep.

It's only his first week so don't be unkind...

[Joe Gwinn]

... Thing is though AllParts used to have nickel silver tele covers and some others but now you ask for nickel silver and they send you plated brass, they are so f*cking stupid they have no idea what they are selling you. I recently got some closed top bucker covers from AllParts when I asked for nickel silver and complained when they sent plated brass, I complained and they said those ARE nickel silver, so I sanded down the top of the cover and took a photo of the obvious thick brass underneath, they never answered my email on that one, they don't care they got my money....

I wouldn't be surprised if they were taken by their supplier. Nickel silver is a lot more expensive than plated brass, and if nobody who knows the difference is still at Allparts, ...

I had a similar experience with a pasta-cooking pot I bought from Williams-Sonoma (WS). It was supposed to be stainless steel, but the first time I used it, I could see the corrosion pits forming. It was that fast. And, the metal was strongly magnetic. Oops. Whatever this is made from, it is not 18/8 or anything like it; these are the usual alloys used in cookware. So I took the pot back. Now, WS tries to be a high-end outfit, but how many cookware buyers can tell stainless steel alloys apart? Or, even know that "stainless" is a relative term? So, they believed the manufacturer. Or rather, they didn't ask enough questions. The alloy was probably one of the stainless steels, but was not one suitable for cookware.

The rule with stainless is that for all but knife blades, the metal should be at most very weakly magnetic (in areas where the metal has been work-hardened). With knife blades, the more strongly magnetic the better, and the less stain-resistant the steel. Now, I always bring a small magnet when looking for cookware.

[WolfeMacleod]

, I complained and they said those ARE nickel silver, so I sanded down the top of the cover and took a photo of the obvious thick brass underneath, they never answered my email on that one,, they don't care they got my money....

If you want results, send it to me and I'll do the bitching.
Get it to me before next weekend, and I'll do the bitching face-to-face at NAMM.
I'm going to lay it on the line with Steve at NAMM, and let him know that we will not continue to put up with thier bullshit much longer, and that they are causing great problems with other people by constantly running out of parts.

[David Schwab]

Amen to that Wolfe!

[Stan H]

+1!!!

-Stan

[Possum]

you got it Wolfe....

Send me your address, I'll email you, but some of my emails to you I think are getting lost. I have the cover that I sanded off and photographed, I'll send the cover to you so you can stick it in his face. they didn't lower the price on these brass covers, they are charging for nickel silver....

[madialex]

+++++1 for Wolfe. Thanks, Bro!!

[DoctorX]

parts are coming

It will still be a while yet, but know this....

parts are coming. a lot of parts.

no one is going to buy me out. Period. I have a big axe to grind. The whole world will know immediately if any overtures are made. Vintage Guitar, Guitar Player, everyone and anyone who will listen. The Internet turns a whisper into a shout.

They already have an inkling something is on the horizon.
There will be plenty of parts....for everyone except for one large company. They are not concerned anyway. Maybe they should be.

Multiple styles, correct dimensions for each magnet diameters.
various plastics for vintage type bobbins.
nickel silver products. no brass. period.
magnet wire in small and large spools.
cloth pushback wire, shielded wire.

I have been and will continue to keep a low profile. This has been discussed before. All punch presses are on site and setup. The mill is on site, the surface grinder is setup, the lathe and drill press are both setup. Massive amounts of A1, D2, O1, P20, sintered alloy tool steels are on site. The amount of individual punch and die sets required together would require a second mortgage, unless you build them all yourself. This is what is taking so frigging long. You are looking at 12 sets initially, not including the progressive dies for the covers. Custom jigs and tooling to rapidly cut and punch forbon bobbins pieces is nearing completion. What is different here is that the tooling configuration can be changed to punch different size holes in pieces in mid-run. That means 6 string, 7 string, 8 string single coil pieces with different hole sizes depending on the magnet diameter. Conventional or custom hole spacing.

All parts made or distributed from manufacturers in this country. Period.

small minimums. nothing exorbitant. Affordable by all. paypal or credit card. as well as conventional net 30.

winding machines with PIC and stepper motor controlled shuttle for custom winding patterns. 2 spindles. Recordable and repeatable programs. 1/3/to 1/2 horsepower motors with speed up and slow-down stages. Cheap because you do most of the building. heavy duty to outlast you. how to make a tensioning device that was (and is) used by some major pickup manufacturers -- it's been used it for decades.

Plans and drawings and schematics and software. control modules

P.S. tape is coming.

Yes. A very big axe to grind. You piss off an engineer, this is what you get.


Doctor X

[Dave Kerr]

A little off topic, but I ran across this source of waxed string and wondered if it's at all like the stuff you guys were looking for:
http://www.sandman.com/pdf/Page49.pdf

[R Walker]

It will still be a while yet, but know this....

parts are coming. a lot of parts.

no one is going to buy me out. Period. I have a big axe to grind. The whole world will know immediately if any overtures are made. Vintage Guitar, Guitar Player, everyone and anyone who will listen. The Internet turns a whisper into a shout.

They already have an inkling something is on the horizon.
There will be plenty of parts....for everyone except for one large company. They are not concerned anyway. Maybe they should be.

Multiple styles, correct dimensions for each magnet diameters.
various plastics for vintage type bobbins.
nickel silver products. no brass. period.
magnet wire in small and large spools.
cloth pushback wire, shielded wire.

I have been and will continue to keep a low profile. This has been discussed before. All punch presses are on site and setup. The mill is on site, the surface grinder is setup, the lathe and drill press are both setup. Massive amounts of A1, D2, O1, P20, sintered alloy tool steels are on site. The amount of individual punch and die sets required together would require a second mortgage, unless you build them all yourself. This is what is taking so frigging long. You are looking at 12 sets initially, not including the progressive dies for the covers. Custom jigs and tooling to rapidly cut and punch forbon bobbins pieces is nearing completion. What is different here is that the tooling configuration can be changed to punch different size holes in pieces in mid-run. That means 6 string, 7 string, 8 string single coil pieces with different hole sizes depending on the magnet diameter. Conventional or custom hole spacing.

All parts made or distributed from manufacturers in this country. Period.

small minimums. nothing exorbitant. Affordable by all. paypal or credit card. as well as conventional net 30.

winding machines with PIC and stepper motor controlled shuttle for custom winding patterns. 2 spindles. Recordable and repeatable programs. 1/3/to 1/2 horsepower motors with speed up and slow-down stages. Cheap because you do most of the building. heavy duty to outlast you. how to make a tensioning device that was (and is) used by some major pickup manufacturers -- it's been used it for decades.

Plans and drawings and schematics and software. control modules

P.S. tape is coming.

Yes. A very big axe to grind. You piss off an engineer, this is what you get.


Doctor X

Do you have any sort of time line for this? I remember you posting this on the old forum quite a while ago. Not trying to be a jerk, just looking forward to you making this stuff available as im sick and tired of getting the run around from all the current suppliers.

[Zhangliqun]

Your lips to God's ear, DocX. If you can deliver on even half of that, you'll make a lot of money on us.