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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spence View Post
    Soft Southern Twat! I just got mixed up between you droppin' yer 'aitches and droppin' yer pants when you's lot get in the back of a car.
    Get in the back of that beast of your's and I'll more like fill me pants than drop em.
    Talking of "getting in the back of beasts" hows the sheeps dear. Must be lambing season soon. Hope they all take after their Daddy.

    (call you tomorrow eve Brah if your in)

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    • #17
      I discovered years ago that if you make a solution of ferrous chloride (I did this by dissolving steel wool in muriatic acid till no more would dissolve, some excess steel wool remaining in the pretty green solution), when you apply it to the bright zinc plated bolts you get in the hardware store they turn black. Rinse thoroughly and oil, and they look good. They will rust easily, though. Don't know how well that works with other kinds of plating, but I do know that ferric chloride solution (PCB etchant) will very quickly corrode nickel plating for an "antiqued" appearance. Can't leave it on long, and it has to be thoroughly washed off.

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      • #18
        Black zinc plating often gives the greenish cast but it can also look quite good and black, probably helps if the chemistry is fresh.
        Black chrome is off the menu in most of Europe I would have thought due to the hexavalent chrome by-products and RoHS restrictions. Most shops will have gone back to paint or powder coat. The toughest of those is Ceram-kote et al. It runs $350 a gallon and bakes for an hour at 350ºF. It does have some thickness so mask off the threads.

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        • #19
          Or just get them from GJ....
          It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


          http://coneyislandguitars.com
          www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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          • #20
            Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
            Or just get them from GJ....
            Yeah, I know...but with my history with Pat...I dunno. Anyway, Jonson have generously offered to help me out so if everything works like it should; problem solved!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Peter Naglitsch View Post
              Yeah, I know...but with my history with Pat...I dunno.
              What happened with "Forgive and Forget"?

              He's trying to get on his feet again ... the more business he gets, bigger are the chances for him to achieve the level of service you all want to get.

              Just sayin'...
              Pepe aka Lt. Kojak
              Milano, Italy

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              • #22
                Nothing for me to forgive or forget with Pat. Never been let down and both Spence and I have had good deliveries so I guess it's just been unfortunate for some. In this case Peter and I are only about 2 days post away so this way will help him out quickly.

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                • #23
                  I've also had no issues with Pat at all. From what I understand he was trying to sell the business, so things got shaky during that time. But he's been on the ball ever since. Think about it, maybe business was slow for him like it was all over. Supporting him helps everyone.

                  He really has some stuff you cant get anywhere else unless you buy direct from WSC or one of the other Asian companies.
                  It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                  http://coneyislandguitars.com
                  www.soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon

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                  • #24
                    This stuff work pretty good, it's called Oxpho Blue.

                    I havent used it in some years, used to use it back in the day when I worked on Baretta M9 and Colt 1911's.

                    It's meant for bare steel, or pre-blued steel, definately wont work on nickel or chrome and looks crappy on zinc.
                    -Brad

                    ClassicAmplification.com

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by LtKojak View Post
                      What happened with "Forgive and Forget"?

                      He's trying to get on his feet again ... the more business he gets, bigger are the chances for him to achieve the level of service you all want to get.

                      Just sayin'...
                      Yeah I would love to trust him with my money. But it isn't just the last experience. He more or less always have ignored my e-mails, have generally delayed shipments every time I order parts, often have back logs on parts and generally handles stuff in a non-professional way. If it was one time or even twice, but I can honestly say that I have had problems with more than 50% of my orders from him.

                      Sorry, a bit off topic, but the OP said; were to buy black screws other than from GJ.

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                      • #26
                        You could ask Dave, at Mojo, if he can source them. It might take a minimum order, but he's been helpful to me in past for a couple of special requests. Since they're obviously available from GJ, he might also be able to tap into the same source. Those are metric though, just in case that's an issue for you.

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                        • #27
                          If you use the GJ's black screws, be careful when doing your final detailing before packaging. When you polish the plastic, either remove the screws or raise the heads above the top of the bobbin. The black plating easily comes off.

                          I'm going to remove the plating altogether from the screw using an acid bath. Prime them with metal primer and then paint them with either flat or gloss black paint. I'm trying Rustoleum or auto paint to see which one holds up better.
                          www.guitarforcepickups.com

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                          • #28
                            KevinT you can also bake them after the painting, 160ºF for an hour or so should help toughen up the paint. I used to stick parts under a heat lamp. Rustoleum makes an engine black that's rated for high temps, that's the stuff I used 20 years ago to black hardware but it's nowhere near as tough as the zylon paint.

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                            • #29
                              I also need black humbucker pole piece screws. Who is this GJ person and how to I reach him/her?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sabicas View Post
                                I also need black humbucker pole piece screws. Who is this GJ person and how to I reach him/her?
                                If you have regular Pole Screws you can dip them in bottled Gun Bluing, I do it all the time, works great.
                                I use this.
                                Birchwood Casey: Finishing Details
                                It says gun blue but it ends up black.
                                Works great on Nickle plated screws and also on brass screws.
                                I buy it at WalMart.
                                B_T
                                "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                                Terry

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