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  • #16
    Hi Nic

    Reading through your your original post it looks like all your readings are correct. If you are using 5000 turns of hf42 wire 3.3k is about right, using a rough approximation a strat pup is wound with 8000 turns of hf42 giving a resistance between 5.7-6k you are using 5000 turns on your hbucker bobbin which is roughly two thirds of what the strat gets so it´s quite feasable that your readings are ok. Have you tried using plain enamel or poly which is usually single coat. I have´nt had much luck getting more than about 6kturns of 42 onto a humbucker bobbin,you have to wind tight and close and maybe a bit of stretching brings the resistance up. Good luck.

    Cheers Andrew
    Ps I was winding some strat pups today and for some reason the first one came out with a dc reading of 5.1k ohms for 8 kt I cut the coil of and rewound it and it came to just under 6k must be gremlins about!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
      Hi Nic

      Reading through your your original post it looks like all your readings are correct. If you are using 5000 turns of hf42 wire 3.3k is about right, using a rough approximation a strat pup is wound with 8000 turns of hf42 giving a resistance between 5.7-6k you are using 5000 turns on your hbucker bobbin which is roughly two thirds of what the strat gets so it´s quite feasable that your readings are ok. Have you tried using plain enamel or poly which is usually single coat. I have´nt had much luck getting more than about 6kturns of 42 onto a humbucker bobbin,you have to wind tight and close and maybe a bit of stretching brings the resistance up. Good luck.

      Cheers Andrew
      Ps I was winding some strat pups today and for some reason the first one came out with a dc reading of 5.1k ohms for 8 kt I cut the coil of and rewound it and it came to just under 6k must be gremlins about!!
      Hi Andrew, you didn't read my last post about the meter not counting 10 20 etc? Cheers, Nic.

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      • #18
        Hi Nic

        I just spotted it, it´s been a long day and it´s 01.15 here in Austria the old eyeballs are getting a bit weary after all the winding. I´m glad you found the problem. I´m still wondering why I was getting a low reading on my first wind this afternoon. Anyway i´m off to bed.

        Cheers

        Andrew

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        • #19
          Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
          Hi Nic

          I just spotted it, it´s been a long day and it´s 01.15 here in Austria the old eyeballs are getting a bit weary after all the winding. I´m glad you found the problem. I´m still wondering why I was getting a low reading on my first wind this afternoon. Anyway i´m off to bed.

          Cheers

          Andrew
          Thanks mate. Nic.

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          • #20
            You´re welcome.

            All the best.

            Andrew

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            • #21
              resistance is futile- make sure your counter is working correctly and in order to pull it all together so youll spot a problem with the counter or with your wire or magnets or core material or pickup covers etc is to get an inductance meter and start charting everything you do- wire size, turn count, typical resistance, henries, acr, coil size, pickup desighn, - you also need an accurate gauss meter to be sure your magnets are correct so you need to chart these specs using al 5 or al 2 or al 3, you also need to chart it by an estimated turn count per layer or by winding pattern if you have several.
              Resistance often goes up and down but henries and ac will remain consistant if you wind to a turn count and your magnets are the same type and charged the same and your coil geometry hasnt changed or the materials you use for pole pieces etc are the same.
              If you dont keep track of all that you are gauranteed to be sending out an inconsistant product and you are probably occasionally shipping out defective coils because they can read correctly by resistance but be obviously messed up if you check everything else.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jason lollar View Post
                resistance is futile- make sure your counter is working correctly and in order to pull it all together so youll spot a problem with the counter or with your wire or magnets or core material or pickup covers etc is to get an inductance meter and start charting everything you do- wire size, turn count, typical resistance, henries, acr, coil size, pickup desighn, - you also need an accurate gauss meter to be sure your magnets are correct so you need to chart these specs using al 5 or al 2 or al 3, you also need to chart it by an estimated turn count per layer or by winding pattern if you have several.
                Resistance often goes up and down but henries and ac will remain consistant if you wind to a turn count and your magnets are the same type and charged the same and your coil geometry hasnt changed or the materials you use for pole pieces etc are the same.
                If you dont keep track of all that you are gauranteed to be sending out an inconsistant product and you are probably occasionally shipping out defective coils because they can read correctly by resistance but be obviously messed up if you check everything else.
                Thanks Jason, all good info for sure. I can't believe I didn't spot the counter problem earlier, need to fix that first up. I do keep records of what I do but obviously need to get more involved like you say. Thanks again. Nic.

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