Can anyone id these pickups ?

[sucker]

Just bought (from USA) a 1977 LP Custom with these two pickups installed.
There are no codes,numbers or letters anywhere. They have red and black
wires connected to the volume pot and white wire not connected.
Bridge PU measures 12.26k and neck 12.73k.

[StarryNight]

I wish I could help. Strange pickup tho. The Phillip head screws look like wood screws! The plastic baseplate should be a signature design feature I would think. Not too many of those.

[LtKojak]

I wish I could help. Strange pickup tho. The Phillip head screws look like wood screws! The plastic baseplate should be a signature design feature I would think. Not too many of those.

This is the closest I could get:



Italian-made p'ups. Never tried any of them, as they're VERY expensive comparing'em to Duncans.

If I could bet, my money will be on they're either German or East European... but I don't know.

Those bobbins look like Butyrate to me... are they?

The dc readings indicate asian, most probably Korean, early '70s design. I've seen quite a few of those measuring that in Japanese and Korean guitars from that era.

HTH,

[freefrog]

Just bought (from USA) a 1977 LP Custom with these two pickups installed.
There are no codes,numbers or letters anywhere. They have red and black
wires connected to the volume pot and white wire not connected.
Bridge PU measures 12.26k and neck 12.73k.

These specs and look vaguely recall me some Yamaha pu's.

[Sweetfinger]

These specs and look vaguely recall me some Yamaha pu's.

Yeah, or maybe funky Schaller from the 70s. The brown jacket on the wire does look Japanese-ey for sure.

[David Schwab]

Yeah, or maybe funky Schaller from the 70s. The brown jacket on the wire does look Japanese-ey for sure.

They do look Japanese, but Schaller is German.

[Sweetfinger]

They do look Japanese, but Schaller is German.

I am aware that Schaller is German, a fact not inconsistent with my statement. The OPs pickups look like they are from the late 70s to early 80s, and not from this continent. Schaller made some weird lookin' pickups back in the day:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Schaller-2-1-...28H7Q~~_35.JPG

[David Schwab]

Yeah, I was a Schaller dealing in the late 70s/early 80s. They were basically DiMarzio inspired pickups, but they were a little different. They had clones of the DiMarzio Model P and J which I used, as well as a clone of the Model G, which they called the Bassbucker. That 2-in-1 was a DiMarzio Dual Sound clone.

They still make all those models:

PickupFinder | Schaller-Electronic

You can always tell a Schaller from the colors of the hookup wire. While most companies use green/white/red/black, they have green/white/yellow/brown.

Something about that pickup screams Yamaha.

[sucker]

Thanks everyone for your efforts. These funky pu's will be replaced by a pair of Classic 57 or BB 1 & 2.

/Swede

[David Schwab]

Thanks everyone for your efforts. These funky pu's will be replaced by a pair of Classic 57 or BB 1 & 2.

Please, get some Duncans or something. Those Gibson pickups are overrated crap IMO.

[sucker]

Please, get some Duncans or something. Those Gibson pickups are overrated crap IMO.

Uh,oh... are we talking Pearly Gates here, or what? Dont want TOO much pu output, want the BF Deluxe,
BF Super Reverb or Marshall 100 JMP to contribute to output distortion as well (depending on club size)
Mind open, advice welcome...

[David Schwab]

Uh,oh... are we talking Pearly Gates here, or what? Dont want TOO much pu output, want the BF Deluxe,
BF Super Reverb or Marshall 100 JMP to contribute to output distortion as well (depending on club size)
Mind open, advice welcome...

I like the Alnico II Pros. Those are some of my favorite humbuckers. The Slash version is good too. A little extra oomph.

Pearly Gates don't have more output than a Burst Bucker. I find the modern Gibsons pickups to be quite toneless.

[freefrog]

Uh,oh... are we talking Pearly Gates here, or what? Dont want TOO much pu output, want the BF Deluxe,
BF Super Reverb or Marshall 100 JMP to contribute to output distortion as well (depending on club size)
Mind open, advice welcome...

Among the mid priced Duncan PAF replicas or "PAF inspired" models, I've tried the SH1, SH4, APH1 (Alnico Pro), SHPG1 (Pearly Gates), SH55. And...

...my favourites are the SH55 Seth Lover's. They are not potted but don't feedback too much and have the most authentic character of Duncan HB's, IMHO (I leave the Antiquities out of the picture since they are more expensive). I liked the Alnico Pro's but they were a bit bass heavy with my amps.
Good luck in your quest!

[David Schwab]

These funky pu's will be replaced by a pair of Classic 57 or BB 1 & 2.

What you never mentioned was how they sounded. They sound like they are pretty hot, huh?