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  • #16
    Originally posted by Telemachos View Post
    And does a wire w. a thicker insulation film produce more highs than a wire being all else equal except of a thinner insulation?
    One question - the effect of the insulation thickness - remains unanswered. I am sure that some of the experts and professors could chime in here, and I hope they do, but here is my two cents on it. All else being equal (that is expecting a lot too) the thicker insulation is going to give very slightly less distributed capacitance in theory. This should contribute to a brighter tone. However, this effect should be so small as to be totally overwhelmed by other variables like the tolerance on the tone cap, the capacitance of the guitar cable, and the effects of winding turns per layer. I'd say David is right, you won't notice the difference. My hearing isn't the best, but I honestly can't hear that much difference between heavy formvar and single build poly of the same gauge, comparing machine wound examples made to the same program, and I have tried to. I supply the heavy formvar on some models because customers expect it. On other models I use the single poly or PE, also because the customers expect it. From what I can tell about your wire, based on the tag photo and the Elektrisola chart here (NEMA MW1000C metric) it is in-between a single build and heavy build which is going to make it even harder to tell a difference. But it should make a nice tele bridge pickup.
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    • #17
      Thicker insulation does sound different. It's pretty obvious too. It's a similar tone to slightly thicker wire.

      Getting back to the photo of the spool. The printed number is what the wire is supposed to be. The hand written number is the actual size of the wire. Elektrisola always have that written on the spools, and probably other wire vendors too.
      It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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      • #18
        Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
        Thicker insulation does sound different. It's pretty obvious too. It's a similar tone to slightly thicker wire.

        Getting back to the photo of the spool. The printed number is what the wire is supposed to be. The hand written number is the actual size of the wire. Elektrisola always have that written on the spools, and probably other wire vendors too.
        I can hear the difference of a larger gauge wire, it sounds much cleaner, clearer, and brighter to me. But I do have a certain high frequency hearing loss resulting from my previous occupation. David, in your opinion does the thicker insulation sound brighter? Or how is it different? I would really just like to know your observations, I don't doubt at all there could be an audible difference, but I have really tried to hear it and haven't been personally able to definitely hear it or see it in audio spectrum charts.
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        • #19
          To me it sounds like heavier gauge wire, just maybe not as much. it has a rounder, looser tone with a brighter top end.
          It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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