Shellac potting done right

[SF]

Is there a right way to do this?
I cant inagine it would dry if fully saturated through and through like wax potting.
Can I just dip it in a can of fresh shellac for a few seconds then let them hang dry, or use a spray??

[big_teee]

Your New User Name IMO is in Extremely Bad taste, and You will not get any help from me!
Hopefully you will take it somewhere else!

[SF]

Sorry man
Take it someplace else, who the hell are you, isn't that poor taste?
If its a big deal I'll just change the name.
It was a simple question that didn't require a snarky response.

Seriously, it's just one qustion and you'll never hear a peep from me ever again, if its a big deal.

[SF]

Are you a moderator? You wanna give me a warning before sending me on my way?

[Jazz P Bass]

SF, here is a previous post on the shellac issue.http://music-electronics-forum.com/t26998/#post232902
It appears that some like it, some don't.

I have seen where the shellac is added directly to the wire while winding. (not your option)

Shellac is thinned with alcohol, so I would think it would not be a severe drying problem.

[John_H]

I had some precat lacquer that was near expiration, so rather than let it all go to waste I gave it a try. I thinned it at about a 3:1 ratio and soaked for five minutes. After several days I cut the coil apart. It had cured completely, and was fully saturated.

@ the OP. I don't think anyone is impressed by your SN, and narcissistic ploy for attention. It's really bad form. Wouldn't you like to be recognized for asking relevant, and intelligent questions rather than for being a jackass?

[SF]

I had some precat lacquer that was near expiration, so rather than let it all go to waste I gave it a try. I thinned it at about a 3:1 ratio and soaked for five minutes. After several days I cut the coil apart. It had cured completely, and was fully saturated.

@ the OP. I don't think anyone is impressed by your SN, and narcissistic ploy for attention. It's really bad form. Wouldn't you like to be recognized for asking relevant, and intelligent questions rather than for being a jackass?

As a novice, I have nothing to offer anybody on this forum, so this will be my last post. My narcissistic ploy for attention was nothing more than a quick screen name choice, and a valid choice(according to the registry process) .
I think its harsh to call me narcissistic jackass, I did ask an inteligent question.
Would a narcissistic jackass give a s**t what you say? Nope.
But I certaily feel like s**t now.

If I wanted attention, Id be defending my screen name rather than appoligise to people who think im a jackass.

[John_H]

As a novice, I have nothing to offer anybody on this forum...

I think You're wrong. Some of the best conversations on this board started as a question by a beginner.

... so this will be my last post. My narcissistic ploy for attention was nothing more than a quick screen name choice..

Valid or not it's disrespectful of everyone here. If you had called yourself Shart I would have likely laughed instead of grimace. I don't want to condemn you though. I don't wish to chase people away, especially beginners because that's where I was eight years ago. This place has more to offer than any site you'll find.

I think its harsh to call me narcissistic jackass, I did ask an inteligent question.

You asked a good question, and I replied with some recent results that I achieved using a similar product. I was harsh I guess, but I call it the way I see it. Just fix it and move on. Peace.

[the great waldo]

Hi Shitfart

I'm getting a bit long in the tooth. I see that T's got the hump with your name, but the moderator has not complained there should be no problem. In my own opinion I don't think the name is hugely original, but I can remember when I studied guitar making at the London college of Furniture in the 70's we used to listen to Derek and Clive and our Lecturer used to get really annoyed about it. What is really important is that this is a free forum to learn or be informed about pickup making. Maybe it would be an idea to think about if you told someone you respect or your parents to call you shitfart to see what their reaction would be. We live in an age where people write what they will on the internet without thinking about the consequences. By the way this is not a put down, and please stay on board to learn new things as I have even in my old age 59. There are many people here that you can learn from. By the way I would not use shellac to pot with as it would take forever to dry out. Stick with wax and if possible a vacuum chamber.

Cheers

Andrew

[SF]

I think You're wrong. Some of the best conversations on this board started as a question by a beginner.Valid or not it's disrespectful of everyone here. If you had called yourself Shart I would have likely laughed instead of grimace. I don't want to condemn you though. I don't wish to chase people away, especially beginners because that's where I was eight years ago. This place has more to offer than any site you'll find.You asked a good question, and I replied with some recent results that I achieved using a similar product. I was harsh I guess, but I call it the way I see it. Just fix it and move on. Peace.

Id rather change the name( I need to figure out how) then disrespect you or anybody here, thats not what I wanted at all and I feel extreamly foolish over it. The only thing I can say is it was the first name that came to mind and it was accepted by the registry, so off I went without a second thought.

Anyway, I got a hold of a set of 70's style jazz bass pickups with a sliced coil. Being shellac potted, I had to soak the pickup in denatured alcohol to loosen the windings. I think I did great job so far, I only lost about 3 feet of coil.
I figured I would just re-pot them in the same manner that they were from the factory. I just can't figure out if it's a dunk or a soak.

I don't know enough about shellac, even less about lacquer.

[SF]

Thank you Jazz P, I will look through this link you posted.
I only chose the shellac because it was allready potted that way from factory, this way I could resore it to it's former glory.

[SF]

Hi Shitfart

think about if you told someone you respect or your parents to call you shitfart to see what their reaction would be. We live in an age where people write what they will on the internet without thinking about the consequences.
Cheers

Andrew

Yes, your right.

[the great waldo]

Hello S--fart

If your Jazz bass pups were original Fender they would have been potted in Laquer which is cellulose based I would go with wax even though it's not vintage correct it's less likely to cause problems later.

Cheers

Andrew

[d. spree]

When my now 19 year old girl was a toddler she had trouble with saying the words that began with a V or an F. Our friend Vicky was "Sficky" and when she farted she would say she'd done a "Sfart." So I strongly endorse any one who would use the name Sfart (with or without the dashes).

[mr fab]

Having done French polishing in my time and having some experience with shellac from that perspective, I would soak the pickup in a weak solution of shellac and spirits to partially soften the older shellac, you would not be looking to dissolve it completely. the trick is to look for when the windings feel a little spongy between the fingers when you squeeze. . I would then take a stronger mixture of shellac and soak in that for a shorter time than before provide some body to the potting. you will have to feel your way through this with respect to finding suitable time frames. however I do believe that if you soak just long enough to soften the shellac, you should be ok.

after potting, remove and wipe the pickup top down with a clean cloth and leave for up to 4 days depending on the temperature and air movement. In my experience, air movement is more important in curing finishes which rely on evaporation of solvents (ie shellac, nitrocellulose)

from my experience shellac takes 3 to 5 days to fully harden, but may take longer in this case because of the depth of impregnation.