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  • Hint for Keeping Count while Hand-Turning Coils.

    Maybe this belongs in the "Painfully Obvious" or "Bad Humor" sub-forum, but here goes:

    I only build & repair pickups for myself. As often as not, the projects I work on are off-the-wall one-offs that can't easily be wound on an electric winder and/or don't warrant building custom winding/counting apparatus. The first pickup I ever rewound was for an Electromuse lap steel: coil wire wound directly on a half-pound I-beam-shaped chunk of Alnico that would have become a projectile if spun at normal winding speeds without a tail stock. I've wound tiny Flatpup-style balanced mic-level single-string pickups: two coils on a 1/8" x <1/2" steel core, with a 1/8" square Neo in the middle. But enough about me.

    Counting "won too tree for..." while turning a crank or winding wire directly by hand is slow, tedious, boring, prone to inaccuracy, not fun, and other bad things.
    I've found that it's much easier to keep track by vocalizing a song while winding one turn per beat. Specifically, that song is Cherokee.

    Cherokee is a 64-bar (vs normal 32-bar) jazz standard in AABA form. The melody moves very slowly- mostly whole and half notes. So it is easy to sing the melody while winding at a fast tempo. One time through the tune is 4 x 64 = 256 turns, probably close to what you need for a mic-level coil. Each section of the tune is 64 turns. So once thru the tune plus once more thru the head is 256 + 64 = 320.
    And so on.

    But, you say, "I need to wind thousands of turns". No problem. Four times thru the tune is 1024 turns. "Play" the song four times, make a hash mark, continue. It's easy to keep track of "four times thru the tune" if you pre-determine the performance order. For example, make it (1)Ensemble; (2)Alto solo; (3)Trumpet solo; (4)Ensemble. Or whatever you like. YMMV.

    Here's a copy of Cherokee from The Real Book:
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    And here's a reference to Elmar "Flatpup" Zeilhofer's site (see last question in FAQ):
    Product FAQ

    -rb
    Last edited by rjb; 06-10-2016, 02:49 PM. Reason: Title: Changed Hint to Tip
    DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

  • #2
    I hand wind too, using a manual hand drill. I get 4.25 rotations of the chuck for each crank of the handle. I can do about 70 handle cranks per minute when I get in the zone. So I do the 1-2-3-4- routine, count up to 100, put a tick on the piece of paper, and start counting off the next 100. Slow-ish, but it works for me, and like yourself I only wind for myself, not for a revenue stream, so the extra few minutes here or there are no great loss.

    Whatever works for ya. Though I won't say that rhythmic winding prevents songs coming into my thoughts and an eventual synchrony between hand movements and tune!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mark Hammer View Post
      I hand wind too, using a manual hand drill. I get 4.25 rotations of the chuck for each crank of the handle. I can do about 70 handle cranks per minute when I get in the zone. So I do the 1-2-3-4- routine,
      Well, with the "rotational speed multiplier", you're getting close to 300 turns per minute. But, unless you have some mobility impairment, you can easily go faster than 70 hand cranks per minute; the "1-2-3-4 routine" seems to be the limiting factor.

      If you like mechanical solutions, I suppose a metronome used in conjunction with a kitchen timer would be another way to lay down a set number of turns without counting.

      But, as you said, whatever works for ya.
      DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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      • #4
        Another Handy Use for Jazz Tunes

        It's been a while since I've found myself having to walk alone through a "sketchy" neighborhood.
        But when I did, I would scat Charlie Parker's "Ornithology"- poorly, and as though to an unseen audience.
        Most effective if you can also affect a swaggering but halting/lurching walking gait.
        Thuggy-looking characters would cross the street to avoid me.
        Caution: YMMV
        Last edited by rjb; 06-29-2016, 09:50 PM.
        DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

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