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    Takes a lot to impress me.

    Not sure if this is the right place to post this but at the same time I belong to no other forums and hope some of you guys will pass this on.
    It is coming up all the time on this forum about accidents and keeping your fingers out of the way and this as far as I am concerned is the ultimate answer at the present time. Not many guys here are gonna spend this type of bread but as you all get stuff cut up and prob know people who do cut things up whether it be forbon or wood then if they havn't seen this they should. Possable potential here for adapting in the future to other machinery and as I know nought about electrics maybe the potential for even stopping a pup winder I dont know. Stateside company (that dents my pride) but a really impressive bit of kit, so watch the videos and tell anyone you know that works with a table saw to have a look.
    Not trying a sales pitch for this company but a definate pitch for saving fingers.

    www.sawstop.com
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    I'm impressed man ! I'm going to buy one so that the next time the wife gets an attack of PMT I know my wiener's gonna be safe.
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    • #3
      I heard about this. Looks pretty cool. because lets face it, no one uses the blade guard on their saws... we don't.
      It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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      • #4
        The best protection is to get a good scare every few years. I've taken finger tips off not once but twice over 20 years. I can promise you that it won't happen again (especially now that those fingers are shorter).
        I say this because I can't afford to retrofit my 4 saws, 5 routers, 2 jointers and mill with sawstops. I don't use guards and I do things no one else I know would do. I don't work when I'm tired and I keep my eyes on my fingers.
        Keep your tools damn sharp, that's the best safety advice I can give you.

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        • #5
          Some thirty years ago, I had a job briefly in a sheet metal shop. Since I was the kid with the college edumakation, they gave me the task of operating the bench shears and figuring out how to get the most out of a 4 x 8, sheet of 12 gauge aluminum or stainless steel with the "grain" running the right way. As you might imagine, there was a lot of lining up the sheet with the blade and measuring things from the point of the cut to the end of the sheet where I was holding it. There was also a lot of inadvertently stepping on the treadle prematurely and the blade descending to the point of the cut while I was holding the end of the tape measure in place. Thank goodness I ended up that autumn with a small pile of tape measures that began at 1" instead of a left hand with naught but a thumb for fretting with!

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          • #6
            That's how Tony Iommi lost his finger tips!

            I've never seen a metal sheer, but I have worked huge paper cutters. You can't operate those unless you have both hands on buttons located on each side of the machine, and then you have to press the foot treadle. There's no way to get your hands anywhere near the cutting area!

            David, I had an experience just recently while using a band saw to cut some plastic. I had the guard very low (it has a riser block), and I was thinking about a comment I read on TalkBass where someone was watching a video of Ken Smith's shop and thought it was scary to see someone keeping their fingers so close to the blade on a band saw... I commented that they aren't that dangerous as compared to something like a table saw or even a router... as I was thinking this I moved my hand back and got nicked on the blade above the guard! Wasn't serious but it bled like hell!

            That's what happens when your attention drifts for a moment.
            It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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            • #7
              I looked into getting one of these for my company. Problem is...we are cutting up tubing/piping for excess (i.e. destroying old or discrepant tubes/pipes so they cannot be used by others) and in order for that blade stop to work...the item you're cutting can't be conductive.

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              • #8
                I run a sliding table saw with blades that run up to 18in dia, Mean mothers and molding blocks 12in dia with cutters sticking out another 2 inches an after 40 years I have still got my fingers so even though I dont intend to be doing this in 4 years time and I am in the Uk I'm still gonna follow this one up. You have got the point David There is no such thing as a dangerous machine as it can sit there for months and not harm a soul and even when you are operating the thing it can be as safe as houses but then you get distracted for 1 second and its all over. Can't accept that other bit Dave about a scare makes you more careful. Tell that to an army recruit. Sorry no body armour as a couple of scares will teach you to duck faster.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jonson View Post
                  . Can't accept that other bit Dave about a scare makes you more careful. Tell that to an army recruit. Sorry no body armour as a couple of scares will teach you to duck faster.
                  Very true but it might teach you to keep your head down in the first place.

                  Scares have different effects on different people. Some become paralyzed and can't go near machines again. I don't have that choice but my mind has learned to inject a sample of the pain I might feel as my finger pass close to any blade, that keeps my attention focussed. Brains are strange.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
                    David, I had an experience just recently while using a band saw to cut some plastic. I had the guard very low (it has a riser block), and I was thinking about a comment I read on TalkBass where someone was watching a video of Ken Smith's shop and thought it was scary to see someone keeping their fingers so close to the blade on a band saw... I commented that they aren't that dangerous as compared to something like a table saw or even a router... as I was thinking this I moved my hand back and got nicked on the blade above the guard! Wasn't serious but it bled like hell!
                    I don't understand this at all. There should be no exposed blade except in the mouth where the stock to be cut goes. I would fabricate and install added guards pronto.

                    That's what happens when your attention drifts for a moment.
                    It's happened to me too. The nick didn't bleed, but what bothered me was that I don't recall getting it. Yet it was clearly from the bandsaw.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joe Gwinn View Post
                      I don't understand this at all. There should be no exposed blade except in the mouth where the stock to be cut goes. I would fabricate and install added guards pronto.
                      It's not my saw. My Delta was not like that. I think they might not have the correct guard on for use with a riser block.

                      The thing was my hand went around the back of the guard. Don't ask me how that happened!

                      Originally posted by Joe Gwinn View Post
                      It's happened to me too. The nick didn't bleed, but what bothered me was that I don't recall getting it. Yet it was clearly from the bandsaw.
                      Mine bled a lot and the gash was quite gnarly looking. It was on the side of my finger right by the nail. it was small and not very deep either. Stung like hell!

                      I've been very good around machines. Jointers are one of those things you really have to respect! A good dose of fear works wonders. I've gotten more injuries from single edge razor blades cutting down blueprints and stuff like that!
                      It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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                      • #12
                        The only downside as far as I know, if one could call it that, to the sawstop system, is that once the blade is stoped by the mechanism, the blade AND mechanism needs to be replaced. Far easier then replacing a fingertip.
                        I find a utility knive to be more dangerous actually

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                        • #13
                          I had an endmill bit break today. Luckily it only smashed a window rather than embed itself into my anatomy. The little perspex guard on the mill would never have stopped it.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
                            It's not my saw. My Delta was not like that. I think they might not have the correct guard on for use with a riser block.

                            The thing was my hand went around the back of the guard. Don't ask me how that happened!
                            Well, I would ride them to get and install the correct guard. This could have been pretty ugly. Sooner or later ...

                            Jointers are one of those things you really have to respect! A good dose of fear works wonders.
                            That deep hum -- they just sound dangerous.

                            I've gotten more injuries from single edge razor blades cutting down blueprints and stuff like that!
                            Olfa makes a little snap-blade mat knife for just this task: "SAC-1". Far easier to use, and safer too boot.

                            http://www.olfaproducts.com/SPD/olfa...1152727589.jsp

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                            • #15
                              I can't believe they stabbed that fish with a crucifix on the Ofa website, such needless graphic violence in today's society.

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