Confused about winding...

[jason lollar]

problem with the "self shielding" way of hooking up the coil is on fender pickups if you do that and leave the magnets un grounded and isolated from the coil when you put your hand fairly close to the magnets you get more noise than if the inside of the coil was ground so it can be a toss up.

[RedHouse]

problem with the "self shielding" way of hooking up the coil is on fender pickups if you do that and leave the magnets un grounded and isolated from the coil when you put your hand fairly close to the magnets you get more noise than if the inside of the coil was ground so it can be a toss up.

True, and a good example of Leo's clever'ness falling just short of the mark (no slam on Leo) and while it's also true that any single coil pickup without grounded poles has that hum "feature" it's like Leo used the Start=Gnd option as his "easy button" getting him good-enough-to-ship.

While I don't see it as a "problem" myself because I've had some moderate sucess at grounding the poles and using Finish=Gnd to get some of my single coils as quiet as can be w/o being a humbucker. While I like that, it's not "traditional" and as we all well know most guitar players want things done traditionaly(unfortunately)

[big_teee]

I've built the Strat Coils every which way.
My experience is a SC is going to hum.
Some Amps produce more hum than others.
Try to get some distance between the guitar and the PT.
My 2204 Clone, is not too bad, if you stand on the opposite side of the amp from the PT.
The Mini Blades are a good compromise.
I can get some descent Strat tone with low wind strat blades.
The blades are really Quiet.

[copperheadroads]

I've built the Strat Coils every which way.
My experience is a SC is going to hum.
The blades are really Quiet.

ReMeMbEr the flower pot coil ............Mine is still on the spool

[big_teee]

ReMeMbEr the flower pot coil ............Mine is still on the spool

Mine got wadded up into a ball, and is in that box, with cutoff windings.
Has Anyone heard for fLoWerPot Boy?
T

[copperheadroads]

He's probably getting ready to enjoy summer

[Justwannano]

Just great info. I'm reminded of when I smelled my first gold-top in 1968. I can still remember it.

I thought about referencing the article and the topic being; winding for right or left hand guitars by Mr.Lollar and
dogged if it didn't raise a question....seems like I would have had it years ago...

It led me to think about Jimi. So I guess he had staggered mags upside down and being the biggest
change other than the bridge pup slant.
So he must have adjusted the angle..?...and probably had some great gain and sustain for the
higher strings. Makes me wonder how much difference it did have or make with his sound.
Also seems if it were a plus that others would have been doing it for their right-hand Strats.
Then again...maybe I'm way off base. ?

[big_teee]

Just great info. I'm reminded of when I smelled my first gold-top in 1968. I can still remember it.

I thought about referencing the article and the topic being; winding for right or left hand guitars by Mr.Lollar and
dogged if it didn't raise a question....seems like I would have had it years ago...

It led me to think about Jimi. So I guess he had staggered mags upside down and being the biggest
change other than the bridge pup slant.
So he must have adjusted the angle..?...and probably had some great gain and sustain for the
higher strings. Makes me wonder how much difference it did have or make with his sound.
Also seems if it were a plus that others would have been doing it for their right-hand Strats.
Then again...maybe I'm way off base. ?

Yes the jimi stagger has been one of those topics of great discussion for years.
I am left handed and I tried the right hand stagger SCs in a lefty guitar.
I didn't care for it.
The only thing that I think is significant is the pickup slant of the bridge Pickup.
Playing a right hand guitar upside down left handed, makes the slant of the treble strings farther from the bridge.
That makes the treble strings less bright, which I think is a good thing.
B_T

[RedHouse]

...the jimi stagger has been one of those topics of great discussion for years...

When you read some of Duncan's interviews, it makes one wonder if he actually did have upside down pickups. Duncan has said often that when he worked in London he wound some pickup sets for Jimi, Seymour could have "fixed" that stagger?

On the other hand Jimi went through so many guitars (smashing/giving-away/etc) one would find it hard to believe he had umpteen "fixed" sets.
(could be RM installed/removed them also)

BTW, I don't care for the reverse stagger either, but I do like the reverse slant, that sounds cool.

[big_teee]

When you read some of Duncan's interviews, it makes one wonder if he actually did have upside down pickups. Duncan has said often that when he worked in London he wound some pickup sets for Jimi, Seymour could have "fixed" that stagger?

On the other hand Jimi went through so many guitars (smashing/giving-away/etc) one would find it hard to believe he had umpteen "fixed" sets.
(could be RM installed/removed them also)

BTW, I don't care for the reverse stagger either, but I do like the reverse slant, that sounds cool.

Another thing that can be done easily!
When I make right hand pickups, and I want to test them in my Lefty?
I mount them in the pick guard upside down.
If the route is big enough, the exception is the neck pickup.
Not room to do that because the bottom of the pickup hits the neck.
T

[RedHouse]

Another thing that can be done easily!
When I make right hand pickups, and I want to test them in my Lefty?
I mount them in the pick guard upside down.
If the route is big enough, the exception is the neck pickup.
Not room to do that because the bottom of the pickup hits the neck.
T

Badda-boom!

[jack briggs]

BTW, I don't care for the reverse stagger either, but I do like the reverse slant, that sounds cool.

I agree...



Cheers,

[Ward]

He's probably getting ready to enjoy summer

You're not whistling Dixie there bro.
The flower pot is going strong.

[copperheadroads]

You're not whistling Dixie there bro.
The flower pot is going strong.
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Well it's great to hear from you again .We were getting worried

[David Schwab]

Start is ground so that if you touch the magnets with your fingers, you wont get any hum. That's about it. Fender Mustangs had closed covers because the polarity of the pickups could be reversed, so the closed covers prevented you from touching the magnets.