I would be increasing the size of the overall coil but not adding any wire. Experience?
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Wrapping the magnets in tape [prior to winding] and the effects on the sound of the pickup
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Originally posted by mozz View PostKapton tape. Most any tape thickness is irrelevant to overall coil thickness. Your tension would play a much bigger part.
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I'd say the resistance/wind would go up, for whatever effect that has on tone.If it still won't get loud enough, it's probably broken. - Steve Conner
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With a wider coil, you need more wire for the same number of turns, so resistance will increase. The somewhat higher rsistance in insignificant for tone.
Frequency response is mainly determined by inductance and PU aperture. Both should essentially stay the same.
So I don't expect much difference.
But if you don't count turns and wire for same resistance as before, you will get less turns. Less turns means less inductance and a somewhat brighter sound.Last edited by Helmholtz; 03-06-2021, 01:47 PM.- Own Opinions Only -
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Originally posted by Helmholtz View PostWith a wider coil, you need more wire for the same number of turns, so resistance will increase. The somewhat higher rsistance in insignificant for tone.
Frequency response is mainly determined by inductance and PU aperture. Both should essentially stay the same.
So I don't expect much difference.
But if you don't count turns and wire for same resistance as before, you will get less turns. Less turns means less inductance and a somewhat brighter sound.
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Originally posted by Brian W. View Post
Even if it's a thick layer of tape [ 1/16 " or thicker] ? The idea is to make a thicker coil without increasing resistance.
PU resistance only depends on wire length and wire gauge. So a heavier wire would give you a fatter coil without tape and the chance of unaltered resistance.
BTW, too much distance between poles and coil might lower your output.- Own Opinions Only -
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The only reason I tape rod magnet coils?
To keep the magnet wire from shorting out to the magnets.
I use one layer of paper, masking, floral, or etc.
Also larger diameter magnets make a fatter coil.
Like .195, instead or .187.
Also the wider magnets, gives more surface for the string to sit over.
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Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
While I don't understand what you want to achieve with the wider coil and why you worry about somewhat increased resistance, maybe this helps:
PU resistance only depends on wire length and wire gauge. So a heavier wire would give you a fatter coil without tape and the chance of unaltered resistance.
BTW, too much distance between poles and coil might lower your output.
" "BTW, too much distance between poles and coil might lower your output. " " ---- That's what interests me !
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Originally posted by big_teee View PostThe only reason I tape rod magnet coils?
To keep the magnet wire from shorting out to the magnets.
I use one layer of paper, masking, floral, or etc.
Also larger diameter magnets make a fatter coil.
Like .195, instead or .187.
Also the wider magnets, gives more surface for the string to sit over.
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