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    The hell with soldering

    Read a few threads on here lately about soldering problems, mostly from posters who are just into pickup making.
    I came up with this idea a while back when i started making pickups, maybe this would help somebody out, it requires no soldering at the pickup.
    I bought a few packets of compression springs 5/32" dia. and 1/4"dia, length 3", cut them up into short pieces and inserted two into the baseplate of the pickup and four into a humbucker test pickup, reinforcing them with a little superglue.
    I then pulled the springs back slightly and slipped in the start and end magnet wires.
    I pressed lightly down on each spring (to get through the insulation) until i got a reading from my meter.
    All was left was to hook up the switch control wires the same way to the springs underneath the baseplate.
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    Here's my Epi Les Paul that I use for a test/demo guitar. I can substitute pickups without soldering, but I wanted to do the same for capacitors. Compression springs should work great. Thanks for the cool idea!
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    I have a bass with alligator clips like that. I also always have a set of alligator clips connected to a 1/4" jack handy.

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    I forgot to add this drawing to my earlier post.
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    So what happens in a few years when the spring and the end of the magnet wire start to oxidize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    So what happens in a few years when the spring and the end of the magnet wire start to oxidize?
    Never got to that stage, what do you think would do the job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_H View Post
    Here's my Epi Les Paul that I use for a test/demo guitar. I can substitute pickups without soldering, but I wanted to do the same for capacitors. Compression springs should work great. Thanks for the cool idea!
    Nice setup, i haven`t seen the controls cavity on a Les Paul up to now, not much room in there.
    Hope that idea of mine works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabam View Post
    Never got to that stage, what do you think would do the job?
    Soldering.

    It's a cool idea for the wires outside the pickup though.

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    I built a bench "mule" for doing R & D work on pickups. It's essentially a crude neck mounted on a wood base resembling the body, with strings, bridge, etc., matching the geometry of my production basses. It's designed so I can quickly swap pickups in and out. Built on to it is a box with my normal pots and passive wiring harness. I used standard electronics lab type binding posts on the box for the hookups. Binding posts will clamp on the 22 ga leads, or directly on the magnet wire if needed. I also brought the tone caps out to binding posts, so they can be quickly swapped during testing.

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    At some point I have to make a pickup testing platform.

    I'm currently using this bass, but it's going to get renovated and put back in service soon, so I need a bench mule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    Soldering.

    It's a cool idea for the wires outside the pickup though.
    A kick up the butt and a pat on the back, nice one David, ROFL.
    Regarding those tiny round coils we talked about a short while ago and the pic you supplied.
    I noticed they were all wound separately and i wondered if you wound these yourself.
    I wind them in series on the winding rod, three or four bobbins at a time which leaves me with just the start and end wires, have you ever tried this method?
    The plastic bobbins I ground down to the right diameter so they fit right into Strat covers.
    I got into this circular type of winding because i it seemed to me you got a closer contact to the magnet source than the standard rectangular wind, also it was a faster and smoother operation, and no need for all these gadgets i read about on the "Tools and Coil winding gear" forum.
    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    Soldering.

    It's a cool idea for the wires outside the pickup though.
    How did that thumbs down icon get there, must have clinked on it by mistake, sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabam View Post
    How did that thumbs down icon get there, must have clinked on it by mistake, sorry about that.

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    Here was my original Neo Jazz solderless connection system. It works well but it was a pain for me to do and most folks seem to be able to solder in a pickup or pay the guy at Guitar Center to do it so I dropped it on later models.



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    I was using those same connectors on the preamps I used to use with my low z pickups. The one problem was it was for heavier gage wire. They do make smaller ones, but I was getting them at Radio Shack at the time.

    If you want to talk about a REAL pain... make some of those multi pin connectors like on the bottom of EMG pickups!

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