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  • Looking for winder for multiple round coils

    Anyone have a recommendation for a automatic coil winder to run multiple coils at a time? I'm producing a pickup with 8 coils per pickup, and two per instrument and want to automate the process... My wishlist is as follows..

    3-6 bobbins per shot
    Gear based
    Automated traverse
    upto 42 awg.

    I like vintage machines.

    I think there is a few meteor machines out there that might work. Does anyone have a recommendation? I'd like to do the least modding possible. I'd love to get my hands on a gorman 2+2 but I doubt that is going to happen.

    Heres a picture of the bobbins
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  • #2
    You can stick all the bobbins on a shaft and put it between centers on a tailstock winder. You just need a narrow tensioner that you can stack up side by side on your traverse.

    I'd think it would be easier to automate the loading and unloading of a single bobbin rather than have to do all that manually to a whole stack of bobbins at once and then repeat it every 6 minutes unless you have two winders going side by side at even intervals.

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    • #3
      I plan on winding REALLY fast. The bobbins are not oblong but circular, so I dont have the normal whipping going on. Im sure I can get into the 6-7000 RPM range, maybe more if I slow start up..

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      • #4
        Originally posted by belwar View Post
        I plan on winding REALLY fast. The bobbins are not oblong but circular, so I don't have the normal whipping going on. I'm sure I can get into the 6-7000 RPM range, maybe more if I slow start up..
        And slow stop as well.

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        • #5
          Why not just sub these coils out to a firm that has the high speed, automated winding equipment? Cine-Mag? I wonder if the bobbins already exist out there too -waiting to be tapped.

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          • #6
            Those coils look remarkably similar to ones I was windiing for Hex sustainer research...

            (ignore the text - that relates to posting on a UK Engineering forum!)....that's a sewing machine bobbin that I wound copper wire onto!



            I've parked the project for the time being, but I had a similar requirement (to wind six bobbins quickly). I'm too tight to sub out (anyway, this is just a hobby for me), so I was going to go bobbinless & wind straight onto the steel core....I even went so far as to get some little jigs made up to allow quick alignment/changing of the parts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by peskywinnets View Post
              Those coils look remarkably similar to ones I was windiing for Hex sustainer research...
              Similar, but with a lot more winds and thinner wire.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by belwar View Post
                Anyone have a recommendation for a automatic coil winder to run multiple coils at a time? I'm producing a pickup with 8 coils per pickup, and two per instrument and want to automate the process... My wishlist is as follows..
                I know it doesn't do multiples, but my wife's sewing machine would fill a bobbin like that in about 30 seconds Even traverses nicely !

                similar to this [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_gQABvM4hU"]YouTube - Sewing & Fashion Design : How to Wind a Sewing Machine Bobbin[/ame]
                www.chevalierpickups.com

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                • #9
                  Thats pretty facinating. The traversing probably wouldnt work with magnet wire, but im going to go to my local fabric store and give it a try.. I say this product called "The easy winder" which may work if I can mod it to have a counter, and a better tensioner.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by chevalij View Post
                    I know it doesn't do multiples, but my wife's sewing machine would fill a bobbin like that in about 30 seconds Even traverses nicely !

                    similar to this YouTube - Sewing & Fashion Design : How to Wind a Sewing Machine Bobbin
                    This was how i used to wind round bobbins when i started pickup making a couple of years ago.
                    I ended up with with multiple coils with only one start and one end wire.
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                    • #11
                      This winder cost me around $400. It runs on RC servos. I had it set up to do as many as 8 humbucker bobbins but pared it down to 6 because it was not real stable. But I bet you could do 8 round bobbins easy. Dialing it in was a pain but once done it worked flawlessly.I stopped using it when I got the Leesona 102.



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by belwar View Post
                        Thats pretty facinating. The traversing probably wouldnt work with magnet wire, but im going to go to my local fabric store and give it a try.. I say this product called "The easy winder" which may work if I can mod it to have a counter, and a better tensioner.
                        There are also winders on ebay specifically for bobbins. Pretty cheap if I remember correctly, and probably easy to modify.
                        www.chevalierpickups.com

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