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    A bit of history: who is the "Sam Lee Guy" ?

    I'm curious to have some background info on him... is he THE Sam Lee that repaired Peter Green's "Greenie" and created that particular tone by chance...?

    If he's Possum's mentor, he's gotta be quite a bit of p'up maker's history... isn't it?

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    between Sam Lee Guy, Rosy, and Belwar pickup winding certainly produces it's share of shadowy characters.

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    I've heard he's a mysterious, and elusive character. A master of disguises that avoids being photographed. Fortunately one rare photo does exist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryNight View Post
    between Sam Lee Guy, Rosy, and Bewar pickup winding certainly produces it's share of shadowy characters.
    I'm a nobody, and dont let anyone tell you differently

    (I can literally hear frankie falbo saying "glad you can admit that")

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    Me think this Sam Lee old Chinese ghost

    Only this many know for sure

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4cEocL5kI

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryNight View Post
    between Sam Lee Guy, Rosy, and Belwar pickup winding certainly produces it's share of shadowy characters.
    Belwar isn't shadowy. He's not even shady. After all, he's Canadian, and you never see them on the news here in the states...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak View Post
    is he THE Sam Lee that repaired Peter Green's "Greenie" and created that particular tone by chance...?
    I doubt that Sam Lee is still alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    I doubt that Sam Lee is still alive.
    he is

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    Sam Lee

    Still alive, yes, but what price did he have to pay! ... I found out the hard way ... it's best not to visit him after dark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    I doubt that Sam Lee is still alive.
    Quote Originally Posted by jonson View Post
    he is
    Fair Dinkum mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfingers View Post
    Fair Dinkum mate.
    A hint that he may be in Australia perhaps. Well you might find he's returned to the UK.

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    By'eck!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spence View Post
    A hint that he may be in Australia perhaps. Well you might find he's returned to the UK.
    I'm not sure if you are talking about Sam Lee, or Sam Lee Guy, but I can say with certainty that SLG is in the UK. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    I'm not sure if you are talking about Sam Lee, or Sam Lee Guy, but I can say with certainty that SLG is in the UK. ;-)
    Talking about origional and as to uk (both.)

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    Hi Gents
    Although I never met Sam Li he was a known name when I was involved in retail/repair in a London shop in the late 60s to early 70s. My guitar go to guy now (Knight Guitars) knew Sam in the 60s. Sam had a small shop in Soho and also worked as a setup guy at Selmers. Gordon is now 70 and says that Sam was at least 10-15 years older than him. So if he is still around he is very venerable to say the least.
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    Hi MacLoud

    I used to have a workshop in the old Rose Morris shop in Shaftesbury Ave late 70´s early 80´s Dick Knight was still making those nice birds eye maple top teles. I thought that Sam Lee had died then, so lord knows who the current Sam Lee is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLoud View Post
    Hi Gents
    Although I never met Sam Li he was a known name when I was involved in retail/repair in a London shop in the late 60s to early 70s. My guitar go to guy now (Knight Guitars) knew Sam in the 60s. Sam had a small shop in Soho and also worked as a setup guy at Selmers. Gordon is now 70 and says that Sam was at least 10-15 years older than him. So if he is still around he is very venerable to say the least.
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    Hi Andrew
    Gordon is Dick Knight's son in law and took on the business when Dick retired, (he died in 96). I had seen this thread and thought to ask him as guitar repair UK is a small world. Yes he knew Sam but has had no news of him for many years. Let us see if the other members of this forum have a more definitive answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the great waldo View Post
    I thought that Sam Lee had died then, so lord knows who the current Sam Lee is.
    If you remember back when there was a thread on Peter Green's pickups, that's when Sam Lee (Li) was brought up, and then Sam Lee Guy showed up.

    Possum knows who SLG is...

    He said in this post:

    http://music-electronics-forum.com/t18894-5/#post170868 #124

    Oh forgot, I don't mention my mentor's name because he likes his privacy, and he's not really a pickup maker by profession, but has a long history in the music world and has alot of examples of different vintage pickups etc. Very nice man. I think he likes me because I'm weird....
    and then

    http://music-electronics-forum.com/t18894-5/#post170868 #144

    He posts here as Sam Lee Guy

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    Hi MacLoud

    Thanks for the note, nice cat by the way reminds me of my lump sitting in the kitchen watching the rain pour down outside.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLoud View Post
    Hi Andrew
    Gordon is Dick Knight's son in law and took on the business when Dick retired, (he died in 96). I had seen this thread and thought to ask him as guitar repair UK is a small world. Yes he knew Sam but has had no news of him for many years. Let us see if the other members of this forum have a more definitive answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLoud View Post
    Hi Andrew
    Gordon is Dick Knight's son in law and took on the business when Dick retired, (he died in 96). I had seen this thread and thought to ask him as guitar repair UK is a small world. Yes he knew Sam but has had no news of him for many years. Let us see if the other members of this forum have a more definitive answer.
    rgds
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    I managed Top Gear in Denmark st early 70's which really was guitar central in those days in the west end & the source of a lot of legendary gear during that " golden age". I am back in touch with Ron Roka who had a repair shop out back.( Ron was a brilliant & in demand electronics guy, who also later employed Seymour Duncan.) There was no" luthier " at Top Gear, any serious wood work went to Dick Knight in the early days and later to Roger Giffin.

    Now on to Sam Li. Sam was one of the few repairers in the West End, he had a workshop in in Gerrard St . This was of course some time before the arrival of Roger Giffin, Seymour Duncan etc., and it wasn’t always practical to run down to Surrey to see Dick Knight . (Dick incidentally had nothing kind to say about Sam's work) Sam Li was his real name and he was of Chinese descent, I mention this only because I came across a post on this forum claiming otherwise. He died fairly recently, only about 3 or 4 years ago, out surviving Dick, Tony Zemaitis and all. .

    Gary Moore did actually bring that guitar in to "show off " the day after he picked it up from PG , who would believe a statement like that these days? Peter wandered in occasionally but was in very bad physical & mental shape by then so I can't throw any conclusive light on the pick up myth beyond the fact that Sam definitely worked on the guitar

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramley View Post
    Now on to Sam Li. Sam was one of the few repairers in the West End, he had a workshop in in Gerrard St . This was of course some time before the arrival of Roger Giffin, Seymour Duncan etc., and it wasn’t always practical to run down to Surrey to see Dick Knight . (Dick incidentally had nothing kind to say about Sam's work) Sam Li was his real name and he was of Chinese descent, I mention this only because I came across a post on this forum claiming otherwise. He died fairly recently, only about 3 or 4 years ago, out surviving Dick, Tony Zemaitis and all.
    Thank you very much for your insight, Bramley. It was very informative indeed.

    Yours truly,

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    You are welcome.

    I might add that many of the old timers I'm back in touch with have made the remark that although a good repairman & refinisher Sam's strong point wasn't wiring & guitar electronics.

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    I'd like to point out that the original question was about "Sam Lee Guy", and not Sam Li (Lee). Sam Lee Guy is a totally different person and is a member of this forum.

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    Opinions about the original Sam Li differed, his fret work was said to be okay, personally I saw wiring jobs done by him and thought a knife and fork may have been used without intervention of a soldering iron....... however that is the past.......... now onto the subject du jour, "Sam Lee Guy" and who he may be.
    Sam Lee Guy has demonstrated great knowledge of Violins, history, construction and repair on other threads in other forums.
    Could he be a well known violin maker who also has great knowledge of replicas of certain LP type guitars and PAFs, who is hors de combat at the moment? or is that just a coincidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Schwab View Post
    I'd like to point out that the original question was about "Sam Lee Guy", and not Sam Li (Lee). Sam Lee Guy is a totally different person and is a member of this forum.
    Thanks David. I was actually prompted to post this info following a recent PM from Sam Lee Guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramley View Post
    Thanks David. I was actually prompted to post this info following a recent PM from Sam Lee Guy.
    Well it was hearing about the real Sam also.

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    I'm guessing this is Sid

    Quote Originally Posted by bramley View Post
    I managed Top Gear in Denmark st early 70's which really was guitar central in those days in the west end & the source of a lot of legendary gear during that " golden age". I am back in touch with Ron Roka who had a repair shop out back.( Ron was a brilliant & in demand electronics guy, who also later employed Seymour Duncan.) There was no" luthier " at Top Gear, any serious wood work went to Dick Knight in the early days and later to Roger Giffin.

    Now on to Sam Li. Sam was one of the few repairers in the West End, he had a workshop in in Gerrard St . This was of course some time before the arrival of Roger Giffin, Seymour Duncan etc., and it wasn’t always practical to run down to Surrey to see Dick Knight . (Dick incidentally had nothing kind to say about Sam's work) Sam Li was his real name and he was of Chinese descent, I mention this only because I came across a post on this forum claiming otherwise. He died fairly recently, only about 3 or 4 years ago, out surviving Dick, Tony Zemaitis and all. .

    Gary Moore did actually bring that guitar in to "show off " the day after he picked it up from PG , who would believe a statement like that these days? Peter wandered in occasionally but was in very bad physical & mental shape by then so I can't throw any conclusive light on the pick up myth beyond the fact that Sam definitely worked on the guitar

    I also worked at Top Gear from 1976, but first met Sam back in 1974 when I was working at Music City on Shaftesbury Avenue. Sam and I were good buddies back then, we had some good drinking times together around Soho and at his home. As is the way, one can easily lose track of olds friends.

    Although one is aware that an old friend has likely passed away, Sam was about 25 years my senior, it still nonetheless sad to have it confirmed. Bless you Sam.

    Sam did some work on an old Precision bass of mine (which is of little to no significance) but he was also responsible for repairs and maintenance of Steve Howe's (Yes) guitar collection.

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    Jude -- I'd love to talk to you about Sam.I'll explain why...Could you email me at eglintonmark@gmail.com ?

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    Hi Jude

    Do you know what became of Colin Pincott and Kieth White AKA The Stoat who worked at music city about that time. Both were really good guitarists and nice blokes with a wicked sense of humour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the great waldo View Post
    Hi Jude

    Do you know what became of Colin Pincott and Kieth White AKA The Stoat who worked at music city about that time. Both were really good guitarists and nice blokes with a wicked sense of humour.
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    Jude, FYI this isn't Sid, it's Mark.

    Waldo some Colin stuff here. https://www.facebook.com/Top-Gear-Mu...9183784906634/

    The Stoat has come out of the wood work and posted in the visitor section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramley View Post
    Jude, FYI this isn't Sid, it's Mark.

    Waldo some Colin stuff here. https://www.facebook.com/Top-Gear-Mu...9183784906634/

    The Stoat has come out of the wood work and posted in the visitor section.
    Hi Mark
    Being a senile old twit, where do I find the visitors section or even better do you have a link to Keiths post.
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by the great waldo View Post
    Hi Mark
    Being a senile old twit, where do I find the visitors section or even better do you have a link to Keiths post.
    Cheers
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    Could you be mistaken about last names? Keith Davis aka The Stoat,
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010208232505

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    Yup that's him, l'll never forget that face, a dead ringer for Frank Zappa. I can't remember the amount of times he wound me up. Thanks,
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