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    Teee, you seem to have more linux experience than any one else here. What version would you recommend for older laptops (win xp era) that might let them browse the web at acceptable speed? Or is that just determined by the hardware?

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    Just as we do with other gear, lets start by finding out exactly what you have to work with: What is the make and model of the laptop, what processor does it use at what clock speed, and how much RAM is installed?

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    I agree with tboy.
    The oldest thing I have is 3 years old with 8gb ram.
    Here are some lightweight linux that may work.
    https://itsfoss.com/lightweight-linux-beginners/
    Try them live before loading them on the hard drive.
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    oh no, homework? HaHa That'll have to wait till the weekend. I work 12 hr shifts, 4 days this week.
    I have an Acer and a Toshiba, I think. both are running linux mint now. I don't know anything about the internal hardware. I'll find out thursday.

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    both are running linux mint now.
    Mint is good. What issue of Mint are you on?
    I ran mint for several years.
    If you can boot from a live usb.
    Become a distro hopper like me and try them all!
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    I don't remember what version I have on those. I started using mint when MS stopped supporting win xp. I really like it. When I got a new laptop a few years ago (the one I'm using right now)it came with win 10. It was so klunky and doing unexpected stuff, that I switched it to mint. It works great ALL THE TIME! I am hoping to get some use out one of the old laptops in my little home workshop area when I need to look something up..

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    I've been using Mint for a few years now but there are still a few things I did with XP that don't work as well in Linux. Maybe someone here has a solution

    1 A good PDF creator. I used Image2PDF in XP, Can't get it working with Wine. It creates a PDF from a set if image files like gif,jpg,png etc. I have gscan2PDF but it doesn't work as well.

    2 A good website downloader, I used Offline Explorer. As above not working in Wine. Great for downloading pages of schematics. I've used HTTrack, it works but it's a little clunky.

    3 When I print a paper copy from PDF in XP I could make a selection and print it to a full 8X11 on paper. Great if I only need to print a part of a schematic. No linux PDF reader can do this?

    I'm running 18.2

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    One way to convert a image or web page, to a pdf, is to take a screenshot.
    There are different screenshot programs.
    gnome-screenshot is one. I just hit print screen.
    The image will be in the /home/pictures folder.
    Open the image in shotwell, and hit print.
    Next select print to file and select where to save the pdf.

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    https://askubuntu.com/questions/4935...-to-pdf/557975
    https://askubuntu.com/questions/3038...s-or-pdf-files
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    For a single page PDF it's no problem, I click on Print and select the option "Print to File" Also works for a web page and will create a multipage PDF.
    But what if I have a collection of image files and want to make a multipage PDF? gscan2pdf does this but all pages end up in portrait orientation, which
    means schematics are turned sideways. Also I found the resulting file size was fairly large compared to the old XP way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmeek View Post
    1 A good PDF creator. I used Image2PDF in XP, Can't get it working with Wine. It creates a PDF from a set if image files like gif,jpg,png etc. I have gscan2PDF but it doesn't work as well.
    Could you use the online version? - Image2PDF
    I use this one - To PDF

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    Why not run XP on Virtual Machine, VM.
    Running XP vm, will allow you to run your windows apps you're used to.
    lhttps://www.wikihow.com/Install-Windows-XP-on-Ubuntu-with-VirtualBox
    This vid is Ubu, but mint would be very similar.


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    Thanks, I'd never heard of Virtual Machine. I'm using Wine - some programs work, some don't

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    First you will need to install Virtualbox.
    Here's a vid for that.



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    Got VM and XP installed already. That was Easy!
    Now to install my programs. Might take me a day or two, I'm busy with other things right now.
    Thanks for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmeek View Post
    Got VM and XP installed already. That was Easy!
    Now to install my programs. Might take me a day or two, I'm busy with other things right now.
    Thanks for your help!
    Good to hear!
    When you get it all running, please post some pictures.
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    Quick question. How do I transfer files between Linux and Virtual XP. They don't see each other. I thought I would use a USB flash drive but XP doesn't see it.

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    XP won't see a ext4 partition.
    You may have to format your usb thumb drive, to either ntfs, or fat32.
    You can do that with command line, or gparted.
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    Making progress. I managed to set up a shared folder to transfer files. I had to download and install an add-on called "Guest Additions"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboy View Post
    Just as we do with other gear, lets start by finding out exactly what you have to work with: What is the make and model of the laptop, what processor does it use at what clock speed, and how much RAM is installed?
    Okay, homework done. I have a Compaq, Pentium 4m 2ghz, 1gig ram, 37.3gig HD. and an Acer Pentium M 1.73ghz, 1.2gig ram, 75gig HD. I am thinking I might try Lubuntu on one and maybe something else on the other. Recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmartn149 View Post
    Okay, homework done. I have a Compaq, Pentium 4m 2ghz, 1gig ram, 37.3gig HD. and an Acer Pentium M 1.73ghz, 1.2gig ram, 75gig HD. I am thinking I might try Lubuntu on one and maybe something else on the other. Recommendations?

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    How about zorin on one of your laptops?
    https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=10575
    It is light on resources.
    I did a review, and it was snappy and easy to use.
    I reviewed it here, post 4.
    https://music-electronics-forum.com/...ad.php?t=48341
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    Ok I'm downloading it now.
    BTW, I used to tell my kids, when they were younger. "if wishes were horses" etc. I'm sure it irritated the hell out of them.

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    Everything seems to be working perfectly. Definitely one of the best software installation experiences I've had. Virtual XP still doesn't see the USB ports but I can easily connect through Linux and transfer files through the shared folder.
    Back when I first installed Linux on this computer (desktop), I had a lot of trouble finding the USB ports. I forget how I fixed it but it works now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    How about zorin on one of your laptops?
    https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=10575
    It is light on resources.
    I did a review, and it was snappy and easy to use.
    I reviewed it here, post 4.
    https://music-electronics-forum.com/...ad.php?t=48341
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    Thanks T. I'm using Zorin right now on my old Acer. So far I like it. I have Libuntu on the old Compaq. The OS seems about the same as Zorin. I never really liked that lapto though so probably won't use it. It seems to me that zorin, libuntu, and mint are all a lot like win xp which I always liked. I never did get used to any of the Win OS after xp.

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    I'm running Mint 18.2 Cinnamon 64 bit, v3.4.6, Kernel 4.13.0-42. Can I update to 20.04 without losing my settings and programs etc.?
    I've been using Linux for a few years but I'm still fairly clueless when it comes to the nuts and bolts of it.

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    Can I update to 20.04 without losing my settings
    20.04 is Ubuntu, not Mint.
    The latest version of Mint is 19.3.
    19.3 is actually running off of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
    Mint is a Ubuntu rebranding, copy, change or improve type of thing.
    Mint is always way behind Ubuntu on what kernel, and software they are running.
    So I think the answer to your question would be no.
    You may could upgrade to 19.3, then maybe upgrade to their newer version, when it comes out?
    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/07/...x-mint-19-easy

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    OK, thanks. The reason I chose Cinnamon is that I didn't like the Unity desktop. Now that they're using Gnome I will probably like it more. I'll start setting up 20.04 on a separate hard drive.

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    The new drive sounds good.
    This thread gives some tips on setting up a multi-boot HD for linux.
    You might want to look that over?
    https://music-electronics-forum.com/...ad.php?t=49505
    Also If you add 20.04, and get it running it is simple to add the Cinnamon desktop.
    after the desktop is added, then at bootup, you can select gnome or cinnamon.
    It will be something as simple as
    #apt install cinnamon
    I'm booted up on fedora right now, I will get back to you on the exact command.
    T
    ** root@Uprop2:/home/terry# apt install cinnamon
    That is the right command

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    My favorite arrangement is the donut base distro. This works great if you use cinnamon fudge (spicy edition) on top of it. Mint is horrid, don't even think about it. To get the best out of it, go for sprinkles and eat warm.


    Sorry, I couldn't help myself...

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