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  • Help Identifying a pickup

    Hoping someone will be able to identify this for me :

    It was sold as a 1970's Japanese (possibly Ibanez), but it has no markings on the baseplate at all. Note the position of the con wire holes.

    South Coil dead - North Coil measured 6.33k DCR

    Sizable ceramic mag glued in place with a metal shim on one side.

    Adjustable slugs appear to be glued into place, no thread marks in the bobbin of the slugs that fell out.

    Appears wound with what appears to be formvar (it's more orange in colour than SPN ) probably 43 AWG as the bobbins don't appear full enough for 6.3k of 42

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    Thanks
    Steve

  • #2
    It looks like a DM Super Distortion, and they are around 13k, and have TradeMarked Double Creme Bobbins.
    Some had the Hex screws, some had regular screws, and all had Ceramic magnets.
    T
    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
    Terry

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    • #3
      Not sure about the baseplate but I agree with T .
      it looks like SD .There have been different size magnets iin these pickups over the years & that explains the metal spacer
      also square & triangle feet on the baseplate have been used .
      "UP here in the Canada we shoot things we don't understand"

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      • #4
        I don't think it's a DiMarzio, they always used a brass baseplate. Could be a Maxon or some other kind of generic humbucker.

        Cheers

        Andrew

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        • #5
          Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
          I don't think it's a DiMarzio, kind of generic humbucker.
          I've seen several jap guitars from late 70s, early '80s with this kind of p'up, with both slug/screw config and the one pictured here.

          6500 turns of AWG43 SPN @ 95 TPL, no scatter, per bobbin.

          Nothing to write home about.

          HTH,
          Pepe aka Lt. Kojak
          Milano, Italy

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LtKojak View Post
            6500 turns of AWG43 SPN @ 95 TPL, no scatter, per bobbin.
            I've stripped of a few dozen layers and TPL is 20 ... be interesting to hear what it sounds like when I'm done rewinding it

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lyrebird Steve View Post
              I've stripped of a few dozen layers and TPL is 20
              I've never seen any p'up with such a low TPL... I think the lowest was 60TPL in an asian p'up from early '70s, most probably korean.

              Then again, I don't wind p'ups for a living.
              Pepe aka Lt. Kojak
              Milano, Italy

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              • #8
                Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
                I don't think it's a DiMarzio, they always used a brass baseplate. Could be a Maxon or some other kind of generic humbucker.

                Cheers

                Andrew
                I think Andrew is right, and it is probably some japanese knock-off of a Super D. pickup.
                It could be late 70s, but looks more 80s to me.
                The baseplate is strange with the big holes nearer the center on the ends.
                You really can't tell what metal it's made from.
                The wire must be 44 gauge, to have that much DCR, and they are not rear full.
                I would go back with 43 gauge wire in the 15-15.5k range for the pair.
                And maybe A5 magnet, or just throw it all away, and start over!
                T
                "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                Terry

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                  You really can't tell what metal it's made from.
                  It's a silver colour with rust marks and the magnet sticks to it, solid not plated ... steel ?


                  Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                  The wire must be 44 gauge, to have that much DCR, and they are not rear full.
                  Well spotted T, the Outer diameter of wire comes in 0.053 mm which is much closer to 44 than 43.
                  Last edited by Lyrebird Steve; 02-27-2014, 10:10 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lyrebird Steve View Post
                    It's a silver colour with rust marks and the magnet sticks to it, solid not plated ... steel ?
                    A ferrous base plate rules out a DiMarzio doesn't it...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Peter Naglitsch View Post
                      A ferrous base plate rules out a DiMarzio doesn't it...
                      Yes it does .
                      I'm curious what Turns per layer was used on A Super distortortion pickup .....Anyone ever rewind one ?
                      "UP here in the Canada we shoot things we don't understand"

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                      • #12
                        I have rewind one coil of a real old SD but unfortunately I cannot find my notes... sorry.

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