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  • Hartke HA3500 Output Voltage

    Hello, I have this amp for repair. There is 1,5 volt on output, I can't obtain zero volt, moving svr301 full left tension drop to 1,2 volt. All transistor and diodes seams to be ok. Power transistors are 2sc5200/2sa1943. Any suggestion ?
    Thanks,
    Emilio
    Last edited by jonbo335; 08-05-2016, 01:45 PM.

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    Rather than go to and fro with many posts try this. Set SVR301 at the best position and leave it. Now measure the voltage of the C, B & E of every transistor in the power amp and annotate the schematic with that information. Also check the power supplies and both ends of SVR302.

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    Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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    • #3
      Hi Nick, Thankyou for replay
      here is my measure
      N side:
      BC 82 Volt
      BE 0,5 volt
      CE 82 volt
      P side
      BC -79,5 volt
      BE -0.5 volt
      CE 80 volt
      not appreciable differences
      SVR2 -1,7 volt both sides refered to ground
      output -1,2 volt
      at the PSU +80,4 -80,4
      Chears,
      Emilio

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      • #4
        'N' side?
        'P' side?

        Which transistors are you measuring?

        Note: The BC/ CE voltage looks suspect.

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        • #5
          N side for NPN 2SC5200
          P side for PNP 2SA1943

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jonbo335 View Post
            Hi Nick, Thankyou for replay
            here is my measure
            N side:
            BC 82 Volt
            BE 0,5 volt
            CE 82 volt
            P side
            BC -79,5 volt
            BE -0.5 volt
            CE 80 volt
            not appreciable differences
            SVR2 -1,7 volt both sides refered to ground
            output -1,2 volt
            at the PSU +80,4 -80,4
            Chears,
            Emilio
            The voltages on SVR2 are wrong. They should be about +0.65V at one end and -0.65 at the other. Measure the volts on both sides of D301 and D302. They are supposed to be connected together on the 0V side so measure on the leads in case there is a bad joint.
            Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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            • #7
              The 2 Ge diodes are ok, connecttion to input ground and on sides +0.65 and -0.65, problem should be around SVR2 both side remain at -1.5 volt

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jonbo335 View Post
                The 2 Ge diodes are ok, connecttion to input ground and on sides +0.65 and -0.65, problem should be around SVR2 both side remain at -1.5 volt
                Sorry jonbo - I've been saying SVR302 when I meant SVR301 - can you please check that instead?


                Can you also please complete marking the schematic will the voltages of on the CBE of ALL the power amp transistors - not just the output ones. Thanks.
                Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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                • #9
                  Ok, I 'll do tomorrow. On SVR1 i have about +300 and -300mV on sides and on SVR2 -1,5 Volts both sides

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jonbo335 View Post
                    Ok, I 'll do tomorrow. On SVR1 i have about +300 and -300mV on sides and on SVR2 -1,5 Volts both sides
                    +300 and -300mV is OK. There should be about 60mV across SVR2.

                    I see C304 is NP (Non Polarized). I think C302 and C306 should also be NP (or reversed). If the output is set to 0V then the transistor base current through R381 will cause a voltage drop putting the transistor base and C306 +ve terminal at a -ve voltage. The left hand base of the transistor pair will be at the same -ve voltage so C302 is also reverse biased. Could a leaky reverse biased capacitor be the cause of the output offset?

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